Seminar 1 The Age of the Earth, part b
(this seminar was given in 2005)
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[Seminar 3: “Dinosaurs and the Bible”],
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[Seminar 5: “The Dangers of Evolution”],
[Seminar 6: “The Hovind Theory”],
[Seminar 7: “Question and Answers”]
“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:”
||II Peter 3:3-5
Seminar 1: The Age of the Earth (part b)
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The age of the earth according to the Biblical account
The Bible says in Genesis chapter1, verse 1: “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” When was the beginning? The Bible says that “Jesus created all things in heaven and earth.” (Col. 1:16) Well wait-wait-wait, did God create the heaven and the earth or did Jesus create the heaven and the earth? Well, they are both fine. Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh in spite of what ‘Jehovah's false witnesses’ teach, ok? Jesus said in Matthew 19:4: “Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female.” By the way, that was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, ok. But Jesus said that was the beginning. Same thing in Mark 10:6: “From the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.” The Bible says: “Death came into the world because of man's sin.” (Rom. 5:12) Nothing died until Adam sinned. By man came death. (I Cor. 15:21-22) The Bible is real clear on the topic. “Adam was the first man” (I Cor. 15:45) and “Eve was the mother of all living.” (Gen. 3:20)
Well, that makes it pretty easy then; we just add up the dates. The Bible says Adam was 130 when Seth was born. (Gen. 5:3) Seth was 105 when Enos was born. (Gen. 5:6) Enos was 90 when Cainan was born. (Gen. 5:9) You go through the Bible; you add up the dates; it's not hard to do. You can make a chart like this pretty easily. If you get my seminar notebook, the last page folds out to be that chart, or we've got them laminated like this one. If you want them for placemats when your skeptic friends come for lunch. You can really stir up a conversation with one of those things. We got quite a few placemats our ministry offers. Different things to make kids read that instead of the cereal box. But if you add up the dates in the Bible, you are gonna get about 4000 BC for the creation. Not millions of years ago, but 4,000.
Now I'm not one of those guys that tries to put an exact date on it. I don't say that it was 4004 BC, October 23rd at two in the afternoon. I don't think you can get that close from Scripture. I think Adam was made in the afternoon because it was just before Eve. It's the only clue I found. And I can't prove this but I think I figured out why God made Adam first. I think God made Adam first because he didn't want any advice on how to do it. How many would agree with that one? By the way, BC means, Before Christ. Almost all the new textbooks are changing it to say BCE, Before the Common Era. Christ is gone from the schools, folks. Textbooks says the earth is billions of years old. Jesus said the creation of Adam was the beginning. Well, was He lying? Did He not understand science? Or was He right? How old is the earth? When was the beginning? “Thou Lord in the beginning has laid the foundations of the earth.” (Heb. 1:10) How old is this earth? Could that date of 4000 BC be correct?
Who has the real problem, the evolutionist or the creationist?
Who did Adam's sons marry?
I do many debates at universities and speak on a lot of talk shows and stuff, and there's always some atheist that will call in and say: “Hovind, I've got a question; Who did Adam's sons marry?” Hmm, good question and a fair question. I say that's a good question and I'll be glad to answer that. However, you guys are the ones that have a serious problem. The Bible says: “Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife and she conceived.” (Gen. 4:16-17) Well, it doesn't say he found her there. But who was his wife and who did Seth marry anyway? And I think I can answer that.
What the evolutionist believes
However, compared to the evolutionists we have a minor problem. See, they believe that “18 or 20 billion years ago, there was a big bang where nothing exploded and made everything.” And “4.6 billion years ago the earth cooled down and it was a hot ball of rock. Earth began as a hot ball of rock.” And then “millions of years of torrential rains created great oceans,” and “swirling in the waters of the oceans is a bubbling broth of complex chemicals. ...progress from a complex chemical soup to a living organism is very slow.” It sure is; it don't even happen; that's how slow it is! This guy said: “The first self-replicating systems must have emerged in this organic soup.” So according to the big bang theory, 20 billion years ago there was a big bang, and then 4.6 billion years ago the earth cooled down. It rained on the rocks for millions of years, turned them into soup, and the soup came alive 3 billion years ago. And that first life-form found somebody to marry; now there's a good trick; and something to eat, of course, and slowly evolved into everything we see today. That's the big bang theory. So great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa was soup.
I spoke at a college in Boston one time. They said: “Hovind, you can come speak at our college, if our professors can ask you any questions they want. Because we would like to show the students how dumb you Christians really are.” I said: “I would be honored to come for that.” So I showed up. There were six professors and all their students in the room. You know, I felt like Daniel in the lion's den! I said: “Folks,” I got out my charts, I said: “Folks, I believe the Bible. I believe 6,000 years ago God made everything. And 4,400 years ago, there was a Flood that destroyed everything. Noah saved two of each kind; not species; kind on the ark.” And then I told them what they believe, because most of them don't know what they believe, you know. Twenty billion years ago, big bang. 4.6 billion years ago, the earth cooled down. It rained on the rocks for millions of years, turned them into soup and the soup came alive. One professor was really upset. He said: “Hovind, do you realize that there are hundreds of varieties of dogs in the world?” I said: “Oh yeah, there's a bunch.” He said: “You mean to tell me that you believe all those dogs came from just two dogs on Noah's ark? Do you expect me to believe that?” I said: “Sir, would you look at what you are teaching your students? You're teaching your students that all those dogs came from a rock.” He didn't have any more questions after that.
Now, who did Adam's sons marry? (2)
But, anyway, who did Adam's sons marry? Well, the Bible says: “Adam lived after he begat Seth 800 years and begat sons and daughters.” (Gen 5:4) How many kids could you have in 800 years? Several, right? A friend of mine in Arkansas had 15 kids in 15 years. I met a family from Minnesota with 20 children, all of them under 20. It's cold in Minnesota... So who did Adam's sons marry? Well duh, they married sisters. You say: “Married sisters?!”
- Well calm down; first of all, there's no other choice, ok?
- Secondly, who are you going to report them to? Think about it.
- Thirdly, there were no laws against it till 2,500 years later when Moses gave the law. (Lev. 18:6-18) They didn't need laws against it at first. For the first thousand years or so, the race had genetically had no defects.No problem marrying sisters. See, everything about you is inherited. Even having children is hereditary. If your parents don't have any, you won't either. You say: “Wow, I never thought about that.” Go think about it. You'll see I'm right.
- People say: “You can't marry sisters; what about genetic similarity?” Adam married his rib! Talk about genetic similarity! It was not going to be a problem, ok.
And you won't notice this reading the Bible, but when you graph out the dates, it is pretty amazing. You'll realize that Adam lived long enough to know his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson. Noah's daddy could have known Adam for 56 years. Can you imagine a family reunion back in those days? All right, everybody hop on the camel. We are going to go visit great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa Adam. And he is going to tell us what it was like in the garden of Eden, before the first woman ate the first man out of house and home. I do tell a lot of Adam-and-Eve jokes. I'll just tell you right now. And this one lady said: “Now just where would you men be without us women?” I said: “In the garden of Eden.” But it'd be lonely; it wouldn't be worth it, ok.
You won't notice this reading your Bible either, but when you graph out the dates, it's like, wow, that's pretty cool! Noah's son Shem lived long enough after the Flood to know Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jacob had 13 kids, 12 boys, 1 girl. One of those boys was Joseph. He's the guy that got the coat of many colors. And the brothers got jealous and beat him up. And threw him in the pit and he ended up down in Egypt. And he became the ‘Vice Pharaoh’ or whatever they called it. And he invited the brothers to move down and live with them. So Joseph is introducing his dad, Jacob, to Pharaoh. “And Pharaoh said to Jacob, How old are you? And Jacob said, I'm 130 years old: Few and evil have the days of the years of my life been, and have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers.” (Gen. 47:8-9) I read that verse 36 years ago as a brand new Christian and I thought, what's he saying here? I'm 130, but this is nothing compared to my ancestors? Yeah, when you figure he could have personally known Shem, Arphaxad, Salah, and Eber. You know, if you were 130 but you know a 600-year-old that lives around the corner, you just don't feel so old anymore.
The relevance of the question, creational versus evolutional account
Anyway, textbook says the earth is billions of years old. Jesus said the creation of Adam was the beginning. Now, was He lying? Was He stupid? Or was He right? How old is the earth? Do the books in this town teach the kids the earth is billions of years old? Are they gonna learn this in school when they go back? Of course they are! “4.6 billion years ago...” Even some Christians are teaching the earth is billions of years old. Some people who really sincerely, honestly love the Lord! This list of folks tells some of those, just a few of those, who teach that the earth is billions of years old. I debated Hugh Ross for three hours on the John Ankerberg show. Both of those guys believe that the earth is billions of years old.
People say: “Who cares? What difference does it make?” It makes a giant difference. Because if you are gonna have billions of years, you are gonna have death before sin. Now you have a heresy. And it is heresy! It's not heresy to believe the earth is billions of years old, but it is heresy to put death before sin. That is a clear heresy, ok. The Bible says: “Death reigned from Adam to Moses.” (Rom. 5:14) “By man came death. ...in Adam all die.” (I Cor. 15:21-22) Who cares about the age of the earth?
- Well for one thing, the credibility of Genesis is at stake. The average person reading that book is not gonna find billions of years in there. So the question is real simple. Can the average person read the Bible and understand it or do we have to have some guru tell us what it means?
- Secondly, the credibility of Jesus is at stake since He quoted Genesis 25 times.
- And just about every other book in the Bible refers to the Book of Genesis. It's an important topic.
- And the evolutionists really care! If you take away ‘billions of years’, their theory looks real silly.
Jesus said: “Had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.” (John 5:46)
Scientific evidence that support a young universe and earth
Well, the Bible clearly teaches about 6,000 years. Let's see what the scientific evidence says. In 1999 the world's population crossed over the 6 billion mark. In 1985 there were 5 billion people on planet earth. In 1800 there was one billion people here. Everybody agrees there were about one billion people around 1800. And everybody agrees the world's population is growing rapidly. But the world is not overcrowded. Don't fall for that over-populated propaganda going around the schools. The world is not overcrowded. The whole world's population today, all 6 billion people, would fit inside Jacksonville, Florida twice. That little city has 25 billion square feet. The world's not overcrowded, folks. Have you driven across Nebraska? Or Kansas? Or New Mexico? Or Texas? Drive across Texas. Have any of you driven across Texas? You can go for three days. Are we still in Texas? Yeah, nothing out there but flat rabbits, I tell you what. The world's not overcrowded. Drive across Tennessee, for heaven's sake. It's not overcrowded. Look, if it's overcrowded where you are, move! Because there is plenty of room out there, other places, ok? Back when Jesus was here, the world's population was only about a quarter of a billion! It looks like the whole population growth curve started about 4,400 years ago.
Now if you believe in evolution, you got a problem. You think man's been here for 3 million years. In 3 million years the population would have grown. Right now there'd be about 150,000 people per square inch. That would be crowded. No, man's not been here for millions of years. God told Adam to replenish the earth (Gen. 1:28); fill it with kids. Have lots of kids, ok! “He formed the world to be inhabited,” Isaiah 45 (v. 18) tells us, ok.
Plans to reduce the population
We got people on the other side who think we should reduce the population of the earth. That is Satan's plan, of course.
- Jacques Cousteau said: “We need to eliminate 350,000 people per day.”
- Ted Turner said: “We need a 95% decline in populations.” Ok, Ted, you first.
These guys for the New World Order want to reduce the population of the world to a half billion. See, Satan was told by the Lord in the garden of Eden: “You are going to crawl on your belly and eat dust all your life.” Then the Lord said: “I will put enmity between thee and the woman, between thy seed and her seed, it shall bruise thy head.” (Gen. 3:14-15) Satan knows that someday some seed of the woman is going to bruise his head and he's not looking forward to that. So he has decided he's gonna kill every human being on the planet. Satan's goal is to kill all of humanity to thwart God's plan. God said: “Fill the earth with kids; have a bunch of kids.” Satan says: “No, we are going to reduce it to zero.” Remember when Herod wanted to kill baby Jesus in Bethlehem? What did he do? Killed all the children. (Matt. 2:16) Let's be sure to get the right one. Let's just kill them all. And Satan's gonna try to kill every human being on the planet.
- Charles Wurster said: “People are the cause of all the problems, we need to get rid of some of them.”
- Bill Clinton signed the biodiversity treaty that said we need to reduce the earth's population to one billion. They've already got the earth divided up into regions. The red areas on the map are for animals only. No human beings allowed. The treaty's been signed; it just hasn't been enforced yet, coming soon though.
- Peter Singer is the guy who wants to have abortions after the baby's born. You have got 28 days to decide if you want to keep it. He said: “Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian religious tradition.” Like animals have more rights than humans.
- Alan Gregg said: “The world has cancer, and the cancer is man.”
- Prince Phillip is the husband of Queen Elizabeth. She's the one that invented the ‘micro-wave’. Never mind, ok. Prince Phillip said: “If I could be reincarnated, I would wish to return to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.” Nice guy, Phil.
About genetically modified food and vaccines...
By the way, Monsanto is real busy on working on genetically modified foods. They banned them in Europe. But 70% of everything you eat now contains genetically modified foods, causing all kinds of problems with health. Get the book: Seeds of Deception, if you want a whole lot more on that. Or ‘Engineered Extinction’ from The New American magazine about how our food is being tampered with to reduce the population. The United Nations said: “Food is power, we use it to control behavior,... we do not apologize.”
And before you get excited about vaccines, you might want to read what's happening with the viruses being injected in with the vaccines. The time bombs being planted in there. There's a long story on that; we cover more on that in our Bible & Health video tape. Autism has gone crazy. There's been a 75,000 percent increase in autism in Illinois! It's from vaccines, most people believe. Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, SIDS seems to be from vaccines. In Australia they made vaccines non-mandatory. 50% of the people dropped out, and had a 50% drop in SIDS, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. Go to www.marytocco.com if you want more on vaccines.
[various more information about vaccinations as seen on seminar slides, see here]
The Georgia Guidestones
But there are people who want to reduce the population of the earth. Go outside of Atlanta, Georgia, to the town of Elberton. Go north about seven or eight miles on Highway 77. And look off to the right. You'll see a place over there where they teach we should reduce the population of the planet. If you look off to the right, you'll see these stones over here, looks like Stonehenge. You drive over there and it is the weirdest place, in the middle of nowhere. You get up and you read them and it says in 12 languages: “The Ten Commandments for the New World Order.” Commandment number one: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 (½ billion).” Well now hold on a minute, there are already 6 billion people here. How do they propose to “maintain humanity under a half billion”? Looks to me like there would have to be a dramatic drop in population. That is exactly what the devil wants. More on that in our College Class CSE 101.
Well, regardless of what happens in the future, the population today tells us man has only been here about 4,400 years. They said: “It looks like there has been a genetic bottleneck. The whole population was reduced to just a few thousand just a couple thousand years ago.” Hey, they are getting closer. Actually it was all reduced to eight persons about 4,400 years ago. Keep studying, I tell everybody you keep studying, and when you get done climbing the mountain of truth, you'll find the Baptists have been sitting there all along.
Problems with this galaxy: Spinning galaxies, missing supernova remnants, no new stars born, from red giant to white dwarf, cooling planets, Ganymede's magnetic field, Saturn's rings
- Galaxies are spinning, but the stars in the middle go faster than the stars at the outside. So why do we still have spiral arms on the galaxies? They should not be there. Galaxies are evidence that the universe at least is not billions of years old.
- Stars are blowing up all the time. It is called a supernova or a nova. But a star blows up about every 30 years, and yet there are less than 300 supernova remnants or fragments that have been found. That's only a few thousand years worth of stars. Why aren't there billions of supernova remnants?
- Some people say: “Well, new stars are forming in Crab nebula or Horsehead nebula.” No, that's a bunch of baloney. We cover that on video #7. Nobody's ever seen a star form.
- The stars are changing from red giants to white dwarfs. The textbook says it takes billions of years. We know that is not true. All the ancient astronomers said Sirius was a red star. Today it is a white dwarf. It happens in a few thousand years. Don't let them tell you it takes billions of years.
- Jupiter's cooling off rapidly. Constantly losing heat, it cannot be billions of years old. It would have been cold by now.
- Jupiter's moon Ganymede has a strong magnetic field, indicating a liquid core, meaning it is not billions of years old.
- Saturn's rings are expanding away from the planet. They cannot be billions of years old.
There's more about that in the book, In the Beginning by Walt Brown, excellent book by the way.
The drifting moon
The moon goes around the earth. How many knew that already? The moon goes around the earth. Did you know that as the moon goes around the earth, it is gradually getting farther away? We are slowly losing the moon. It's leaving us a couple inches a year, no big deal. Nothing to worry about; plus nothing you can do about it anyway. But the moon is getting farther from the earth every day. Now kids, this is gonna be complicated, so listen carefully. The moon is getting farther from the earth every day. So that means that it used to be closer. How many can figure this out with no help at all?
Well, if you bring the moon in closer, you start to create a problem, because the moon causes the tides. You folks in Knoxville probably don't worry about the tides. But in Pensacola, you worry about the tides. You see, if the moon was closer, the tides would be higher. There's a law called the inverse square law. If you brought the moon in to ⅓ the distance, you take the ⅓, flip it over and square it. It's nine times the gravitational pull! If you run all the math on this, you'll find out that the moon and earth would have been almost together 1.4 billion years ago. Walt Brown says 1.2 billion years ago is the max life span for the earth and moon. Well, if the moon was whizzing around just above the surface of the earth, that explains what happened to the tall dinosaurs. They got ‘mooned’.
Moon dust [1998 seminar]
Various creationists have come up with this list of arguments that they have distributed. It is listing arguments that they then advice to not use. One of these listed arguments was the one about this ‘moon dust’. Dr. Hovind used this in his 1998 version of this same seminar, but hasn't been using it at least since 2003. I did however found on some forum a reaction from Dr. Hovind that he nonetheless didn't seem to agree with the faultiness of the argument itself. And I tend to agree with that. He was however persuaded not to use it anymore. You can consult the argument here (this will redirected you to the 1998 seminar, separate window). So, judge for yourself. –Website owner.
Comets have a life span of less than 10,000 years
Comets are flying around through space, but comets are constantly losing material. I mean, stuff blows off the tail of a comet. You can't just keep losing, ok, pretty soon it is gone. You know, it's kind of like your checkbook. See, if your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall, every single time! Well, these comets are always losing material. That's something you just can't keep doing forever. Most astronomer's say: “Comets can't last more than about 10,000 years.” Ok, well then I have a question. Why do we still have comets out there? They should all be gone by now.
2,000 anti-Hovind websites
I mentioned in a seminar years ago that comets is an indication that the solar system is less than 10,000 years old. And an atheist went home and devoted an entire website against me, anti-Hovind website. There are now over a 1,000. One guy told me there is closer to 2,000 anti-Hovind websites. I'm so proud of myself.
The Oort cloud
Well, this one scoffer on his website said: “Hovind, don't you know that a Dutch astronomer back in 1950? His name was Jan Oort. He proposed (that means, he hoped; he wished; he prayed) that there was a great shell of comets out there, and new ones keep coming in to replace the ones that are burning out.” So he said that the reason we still have comets is because new ones are replacing the ones that are burning up. They called it the ‘Oort Cloud’ of comets. He said: “This Oort cloud is 50,000 astronomical units away.” Well, if you don't know what an astronomical unit is, it is the distance from the sun to the earth. That is one astronomical unit. It's pretty hard to see Pluto without a really good telescope. And Pluto's only 39 astronomical units away. You're never going to see a comet at 50,000 astronomical units, that's for sure, ok.
Nobody's ever seen this Oort cloud. Oort never saw the Oort cloud. The whole thing is based on a mathematical mistake. There is no Oort cloud. Even Carl Pagan, eh Sagan said: “Many scientific papers are written each year about the Oort cloud, its properties, its origin, its evolution. Yet there is not yet a shred of direct observational evidence for its existence.” There is no Oort cloud.
The ‘burden of proof’ shift
But the scoffer on his website said, Hovind, “if you want to use the comet argument, you know, to prove the earth is young. It's up to you to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Oort cloud and other sources don't exist!” Wait, wait, wait, wait. How would you prove the nonexistence of something? Wouldn't I have to be all places at the same instant to prove something doesn't exist? What he's trying to do here is called shifting the burden of proof.
The liberals do it to us all the time, and we fall for it. I'll show you how easy it is to do, ok. Suppose I said watermelons are blue on the inside until you cut the skin. Prove I'm wrong. Hmm, that's called shifting the burden of proof. That would be pretty hard to do, wouldn't it? As soon as you cut the skin, oh see, it turned red. I was right; it was blue a second ago. He says I have to prove there's no Oort cloud. Now wait, wait, wait, Dave, here's what we know. We know we have comets. We know they don't last more than about 10,000 years. We know the Bible says the earth is 6,000 years old. I don't have a problem with comets. But he wants to make it look like I have a problem with comets, when he's the one who's got the problem.
Everything in evolutional theory is backwards with the Biblical account
The Bible says: “The heavens declare the glory of God.” (Ps. 19:1) It's interesting.
- Evolution theory has the sun and stars evolving before the earth. The Bible says, God made the earth before the sun and stars.
Everything about the evolution theory is backwards to the Bible. Every single thing, absolutely backwards! These theories don't match. Everything's backwards.
- The Bible says, man brought death into the world. Evolution says, death brought man into the world.
- The Bible says, God created man; and evolution says, no, man created God.
These theories are polar opposites. People say: “Couldn't God use evolution to create?” Well He could have, but it's not the God of the Bible, that's for sure. The God that would use evolution is cruel, wasteful, and retarded. It's not a God you would want to pray to, that's for sure. We cover more of that on video 7 of the blue series of tapes back there.
To ‘think’ or ‘not think’
The psalmist said: “When I consider thy heavens...” (Ps. 8:3) By the way, heavens is plural; we get into that more on video #2. He said: “When I consider...” Kids, you'd do yourself a favor every once in a while to shut off that TV, and go outside, and consider the heavens. Go see what God has done. The psalmist said: “While I was musing, the fire burned.” (Ps. 39:3) The word ‘muse’ means, think. Think! The Bible uses that word twice. Think. Now, English is a pretty interesting language, you know. A ‘theist’ is, a person who says he believes in God. If you put the letter ‘a’ in front of a word, it means the opposite. So an ‘atheist’ is, a person who says he does not believe in God. ‘Muse’ means to think. So what is the opposite? You got it. ‘Amuse’ means literally, to not think. Did you know we've got entire parks where you can pay money and go do that. They are called amusement parks, a place to not think.
He said: “When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon, the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man that thou art mindful of him?” (Ps. 8:3-4) You know it is interesting? A person that spends his time considering what God has done is just not impressed with what man can do. And some of you parents ought to go home and look in your kid's bedroom. And if what you see all over the wall are pictures of sports heroes; you listen carefully; you are training your kids to meditate on what man can do, not what God can do. And his brain, his thinking process, is going to be about that deep. You know the depth of his understanding is, “Wow, he threw the ball through the hoop. Ooh, ooh...” Who's gonna care in a thousand years? Who's gonna care in five years? Does anybody know who won the Stupid Bowl, eh Super Bowl, five years ago? Does anybody care? It doesn't matter, does it? All those grown men out there fighting over that one ball, and they can all afford to go buy their own. No, I mean it's not sinful. It is just dumb to pay a guy five million dollars to carry a pig bladder down a cow pasture through some plumbing. It's not gonna last, folks. Think about things that are going to last forever, like what God has done. Meditate on that.
The earth's magnetic field decline
The Bible says: “Speak to the earth and it shall teach thee.” (Job 12:8) The earth is like a big magnet. Now magnets always lose their strength. The earth's magnet has lost 10% of its strength in the last 150 years. That means, of course, it used to be stronger, since it's getting weaker. And it cannot be more than 25,000 years old. Just the earth's magnetic-field decline limits it to less than 25,000 years. And that also means carbon dating can't work. Give you a few examples here: “The lower leg of a mammoth dated 15,000 years old, but the skin was 21,000.” “One part of a mammoth is 29,000 years old, another part is 44,000.” You talk about a slow birth. We cover more on carbon dating on video #7 and all the serious problems with that.
But the textbooks will say: “Well, yes the magnetic field is getting weaker, but that's because it's reversing. Ok, it's a pattern of reversals.” No, there are no magnetic reversals in the magnetic field at the bottom of the ocean. We cover that on video #6. This is all part of another theory called, Pangaea. How many have ever heard of ‘Pangaea’ before? That all the continents used to fit together. Well, I bet they didn't tell you they shrank Africa nearly 40% to make them fit, did they? Did they tell you they took out all of Mexico and Central America? “Señor, que pasa donde esta Mexico, Panama, Costa Rica and Guatemala?” And you know, they don't tell you what I think ought to be obvious to a kindergartner. Did you know if you take the water out of the oceans, you will notice there is dirt underneath. People say: “Hovind, do you think the continents were ever connected?” I say: “What do you mean? They are still connected.” I mean, like right now; it is just the low places are full of water, that's all. What do you mean, “were they connected”? Hello! They are still connected. What a dumb theory! We cover more of that on video #6 about Pangaea, in what's called The Hovind Theory.
Earth's rotational speed is slowing down
The earth is spinning about 1,000 miles per hour at the equator. But the earth is slowing down. “The earth actually slows down about a thousandth of a second every day.” The earth slows down. Astronomy magazine ran an article in 1992. They said: “Earth's rotation is slowing down. June will be one second longer than normal.” We will have a leap second. Leap second? Yes, they have to have a leap second about every year to year and a half, because the earth it is slowing down. Now kids, this is gonna be complicated, so listen carefully. The earth is spinning, but it is slowing down. So that means that it used to be going faster. How many can figure this out with no help at all? Four, five, six... nine, ok. Well, if the earth is only 6,000 years old, this is not a problem. I mean, it was going a little faster; Adam wouldn't notice. He didn't have a watch anyway, as far as we know. But some of these guys would like me to believe that the earth is billions of years old. Man, if you go back billions of years, you are gonna have a problem. The earth would be spinning pretty quick. Get up; go to bed. Get up; go to bed. Get up; go to bed. You'd never get nothing done. Centrifugal force would have been enormous. Man, the winds would have been 5,000 miles an hour from the Coriolis effect. And you want me to believe that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago? I know what happened to them. Tjoomph..., they got blown off! No, they did not live no millions of years ago.
The Sahara desert is only about 4,000 years old
The Sahara desert has what is called a prevailing wind pattern. The wind almost always blows the same way. This creates a serious problem. The hot air comes off the desert, kills the trees next door, and that area becomes desert. The process is called desertification. You can read about it in an earth science book. The Sahara desert has been studied very carefully. They did a long study on this and said: “You know what, folks, the Sahara desert is probably about 4,000 years old.” That's when it started growing. Egypt used to be fertile land all over the place. Ok, well then I have a question: “If the earth is millions of years old, why don't we have a bigger desert someplace? Why would the biggest desert on the planet be less than 4,000 years old?”
Well, I have a theory about that. Now here's my theory. I believe about 6,000 years ago, God created everything; 4,400 years ago there was a Flood. Now it's pretty hard to have a desert under a flood. You got to admit that would be tough, ok. So the desert couldn't start growing until the floodwater went down. So I predict, based on the Bible, the biggest desert in the world would be less than 4,400 years old. It is! Wow, maybe the Bible is right.
Underground oil pressure only holds about 10,000 years
You know when they drill into the ground, sometimes they hit oil? The oil is under incredible pressure in some places, up to 20,000 pounds per square inch (psi). It will come squirting up out of the ground, 20,000 psi. Well, the guys who study the rocks on top of the oil say: “You know, it just can't handle that pressure for more than about 10,000 years.” I know the weight of rock supplies pressure, but the pressure in the well is greater than the weight of overburden. They say it should have cracked the rock and leaked off in less than 10,000 years. Ok, well then, now I have got two questions: “Where did the oil come from? And why is it still under pressure?” Well, most scientists agree that oil comes from organisms that are squished. “They're changed by heat and pressure into oil.”
They learned in 1971 how to make oil in 20 minutes in the laboratory. In Australia they've got a treatment plant that takes sewage sludge and turns it into oil in 30 minutes. There is a factory in Texas that takes turkey guts and pressurizes them, and heats them, and turns them into oil. It said in the article: “We duplicated what Mother Nature does, but what took Mother Nature millions of years to do, we do in about 30 minutes.” Sinclair has the dinosaur as their logo. They say dinosaurs turned into oil. Yes, boys and girls, they “mellowed for 80 million years.” I don't think so.
[*older Sinclair displays actually depict 100 million years, the more recent one's say 80 million years]
I have a theory about the oil, and here is my theory, ok. I believe about 6,000 years ago, God created everything; 4,400 years ago there was a Flood, ok. In that Flood, lots of critters and people drowned. They got buried by the gravel, and the rocks, and the mud, and the sand, and it got pretty heavy after a while. And it squished them, krrrr... into oil. So the oil's down there today from the people and animals that drowned in that Flood. Which means if you stop to think about it, you drove over here tonight on some of your ancestors. Well, Noah's uncles anyway. Next time you're at the gas station, pumping him in there, you can say: “Bye, Grandpa. You should have listened to Noah; he told you it was gonna rain!”
Ice core layers
I was preaching in Denver one time, and some guys came and they said: “Hovind, we know you teach the earth is only 6,000 years old. We would like to prove to you, you're wrong. Would you come with us, please?” I said: “Sure!” They took me to this big freezer in Denver, Colorado, outside of Denver, in Lakewood. It's the National Ice Core Laboratory, -36° F (-38C) in there. They put this big suit on me, big hat, big gloves, big boots. I was freezing in five seconds when I walked in there. I have got Florida blood, you know? It is real thin. They said: “Hovind, we go to Greenland and we drill holes through the ice.” You know, a government job. “And, we take this big pipe and we drill it down, and we bring this ice core out of the middle of the pipe. And we save it in this big freezer here in Lakewood, Colorado. We have ten ice cores stored in this freezer.” They took me over and showed me one of the ice cores. They said: “You see these rings on here, looks like tree rings, dark, light, dark, light?” I said: “Oh yeah, it's real clear.” They said: “Well what happens, in the summer, the snow melts a little bit, and then it refreezes and makes clear ice. (It shows up dark in the picture.) In the winter, the snow just packs. It doesn't get a chance to melt. And so it shows up as a white layer. So these layers represent, summer, winter, summer, winter, summer, winter, summer, winter. They said: “The deepest hole we've ever drilled is 10,000 feet deep. And we counted these ice rings. And there were 135,000 of them. And now you're going around telling everybody the earth is 6,000 years old. We can prove it is at least 135,000.”
‘The lost squadron’
I said: “Fellas, aren't you assuming those are annual rings?” See, they didn't know about the ‘lost squadron’, apparently. But, in World War II, some airplanes ran out of gas and landed in Greenland. Has anybody ever heard of the Lost Squadron? Ok. It's been on TV a bunch of times. Well, the airplanes got left there in 1942. They went on and fought the war, everybody forgot about them. Until a rich millionaire from Kentucky got a brilliant idea. Go find those airplanes and bring them home. He went there looking for the airplanes. They had to use ground-penetrating radar to penetrate the ice, and they located the planes. They melted this hole down to get to the P-38, it was 263 feet below the surface. They melted this hole down to get to the plane, took the plane apart, and brought the pieces back through the hole. And they put them back together in Middlesboro, Kentucky. Not too far from here. How far is Middlesboro from Knoxville? Two hours, maybe? The plane, that's where it's home base is, Middlesboro. Well, the planes were in the ice for 48 years. They were 263 feet down. That's 5½ feet a year. Now, the deepest hole they've ever drilled is 10,000 feet. You divide that by 5½ you get 1,800 years. I know deeper layers get squished, called glacial firn. So really 4,000 years is plenty of time to put all the ice at the North and South Poles. So, why isn't there more ice at the North and South Pole?
I visited the museum and saw the guy who dug out the airplane, his name is Bob Garden. I said: “Bob, when you went down to get to that airplane, did you melt..., did you go through ice rings?” He said: “Oh yeah, many hundreds of them.” I said: “Now wait a minute. How can there be hundreds of ice rings in 48 years? Shouldn't there be somewhere around... 48?” He said: “Who told you those are annual layers?” He said: “That doesn't represent summer, winter, summer, winter. It represents warm, cold, warm, cold, warm, cold.” You can get five of those in one week in Knoxville, can't you? Yeah, but here's a guy still calling them annual layers. Now either he is ignorant, or he is lying. I hope he is just ignorant because ignorance can be fixed. You see, stupid is forever, but ignorance can be fixed. That is the difference by the way.
A guy that works with the Eskimos said: “Brother Hovind, I got 15 layers of snow on my car in 8 hours. Not 15 inches, 15 distinct layers of snow!”
Petrified trees through different rock layers
Your kids are gonna be taught that each of the layers of the earth is a different age. They've got Cenozoic, Mesozoic, Paleozoic, Archeozoic. Did you know the whole geologic column is baloney? It doesn't exist. We cover that on video #4.
All over the world petrified trees are found standing up connecting these rock layers. A petrified tree connecting a bunch of layers, can't be millions of years difference in the age of the layers. One at Cookville, Tennessee, not far from here. The bottom is coalified; the center is petrified; the top is coalified again. Runs through two coal seams. We cover more on that on video #6 about coal formation. Mt. Saint Helens blew trees into Spirit Lake. They're gonna petrify very quickly, standing up. That's the way they sank to the bottom. They got water-logged. Wood petrifies quickly.
- Here is petrified firewood.
- Here is a petrified fish giving birth. It does not take millions of years to give birth.
- Petrified cowboy boot with the cowboy's leg still in it. The article's on the table down here called ‘The Limestone Cowboy’.
[various illustrations of these artifacts and more information, see seminar #4 & #6]
Mississippi River sediments deposits
“The Mississippi River is depositing sediments at the rate of 80,000 tons every hour.” 80,000 tons of mud comes down and dumps off round New Orleans and that delta is growing larger and larger. They studied the delta pretty carefully, and they say: “It probably took 30,000 years to put all that mud out there in the delta.” Ok, well then, I have a question. If the earth is millions of years old, why isn't the whole Gulf of Mexico full of mud by now? They'll say: “Hovind, it's 30,000 years; that proves the Bible is wrong. The Bible says 6,000.” I know, but see I got a theory about that.
Here's my theory, I believe 6,000 years ago God made everything; 4,400 years ago there was a Flood. As the floodwater was running off, whoosh..., about half of that mud washed out there in 20 minutes. So it looks like it took 30,000 years to get the mud out there. It took about 20 minutes, and then 4,400 years since then, ok.
A friend of mine from Louisiana is a pastor of a church. He said: “Brother Hovind, I used to work in the oil field drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, drilling for oil.” He said: “We drilled down through 14,000 feet (4250 m) of mud and hit trees 60 feet (18 m) tall, standing up.” 60-foot vertical trees under 14,000 feet of mud. More about that on video #6.
The oldest tree in the world is 4,300 years old
Here is a picture of the oldest tree on the planet, it's called the Bristle cone pine. We have a piece of Bristle cone in our museum in Pensacola. It's only 30 inches in diameter and it's 700 years old. You can count the rings with a magnifying glass. It grows real slow. Now tree-ring dating is not an exact science. Trees can produce two rings a year or three rings a year. And be very careful about tree-ring dating with overlapping sequencing. We cover more on that during Q & A time, if you like. The oldest tree in the world, this textbook says, is “4,300 years old, earth's oldest organism.” That's a pretty old tree. But I've got a question. If the earth is millions of years old, why don't we have an older tree someplace? Why would the oldest tree be 4,300 years old? I have a theory about that.
Here's my theory. I believe about 6,000 years ago God made everything; 4,400 years ago there was a Flood. And so I predict the oldest tree ought to be somewhere around 4,300 years old. It is! Wow! Maybe that Bible is right, you know! Maybe I ought to read that thing and believe it.
The Great Barrier Reef is less than 4,200 years old
Here is a picture of a coral reef. Did you know the largest reef in the world is in Australia? I had a call from a church in Brisbane one time. They said: “Do you want to come preach over here in Australia?” I said: “I need to pray about this.” He said: “Yes!” I took my whole family over to Australia. My daughter and I got to go scuba diving at the Great Barrier Reef. It was incredible! Some of the reef was destroyed during World War II by ships and anchors and bombs and stuff like that. So the environmentalists wacko's went out there to see how fast it grows back. They watched the reef grow for 20 years. (It was a government project.) After watching it grow for 20 years, they said the reef is less than 4,200 years old. Ok. Well, than I have a question. If the earth is millions of years old, why don't we have a bigger reef someplace? Why on earth would the biggest reef be only 4,200 years old?
I have a theory about that. I bet you know what it is, don't you? Can you figure it out by now, ok?
The Niagara Falls
Here's a picture of Niagara Falls. The textbook says, boys and girls: “The rocky ledge above Niagara Falls has been eroding for nearly 9,900 years.” Now how do they know that? Well, the rocks are breaking off the edge. I mean, all waterfalls do that. They break rocks off and the waterfall eats its way backwards, ok. Flows one direction; erodes the other direction. Niagara Falls is moving back 4.7 feet (1.4 m) a year. Charles Lyell went there in 1841 and said: “Well, Niagara Falls is here.” Obviously, it started up here at the cliff by Lewiston, New York, moving back down the gully. He said: “It's 10,000 years worth of erosion.” The people that lived there said: “Charlie, it erodes a whole lot faster than you think. One good rainstorm and there is a whole lot of erosion takes place.” He figured three feet a year. Purposely to make the Bible look wrong, he hated the Bible. We get into more onto him on video #4. Today Niagara Falls is way back there, split over that island. It's actually two Niagara Falls, the Canadian side and the American side. It has eroded back quite a way just since Charles Lyells’ time.
Textbook says: “This gorge that the river runs into is 7½ miles (12 km) long. A simple calculation shows it's been 9,900 years.” Oh, it's not that simple. See Niagara Falls is right here. It started up further north up by Lewiston. If the earth is millions of years old, why hasn't it eroded back to Lake Erie by now? Why is Niagara Falls right there? I have a theory about that, ok.
Here is my theory. You see about 6,000 years ago, God made everything; and 4,400 years ago there was a Flood. As the floodwater was running off, whoosh..., about half of that creek washed out in 20 minutes. So it looks like it took 9,900 years. They forgot the Flood. They also forgot to get the right number. It should have been 8,400 had they used 4.7, but, you know, what do you expect?
The amount of salt in the oceans account for less than 5,000 years old
When it rains, 30% of the water runs into the ocean, bringing with it mineral salts. The oceans are getting saltier every day. Today they are 3.6% salt. They could have done that in less than 5,000 years. Question: “Why aren't the oceans saltier?” Well, you see 6,000 years ago God made everything; 4,400 years ago there was a Flood. Now since the Flood's been over, the oceans have gradually gotten saltier. One atheist I debated said: “Hovind, can you please tell me how the fresh-water fish survived the Flood?” I said: “Sir, aren't you assuming the flood was salt water.” He said: “The ocean is salt water.” I said: “Well, it is today. Yeah. During the Flood it was probably mostly fresh water and it has gradually gotten saltier. And today some animals have had to adapt to salt water. And now we have fresh-water crocodiles, and salt-water crocodiles, and they probably had a common ancestor. A crocodile.” He said: “That's evolution.” I said: “No, it's not. Going from a fresh-water croc to a salt-water croc is a minor change compared to your evolution story. You believe they changed from a rock to a ‘crock’. Now, that's a major change!,” ok.
A friend of mine in Alabama raises fish. He said he took a fresh-water fish, Black Mollys. Slowly added salt to their aquarium. In two weeks, they became salt-water fish. When he put them back in fresh water, they died in 30 minutes. They can adapt to salt water, not a problem.
Stalactites and stalagmites don't take millions of years to form
How many have ever gone into a cave and the guide said: “Don't touch the formations; they take millions of years to form.” They all got the same speech, right? What's the one in Kentucky? Mammoth Cave? Or go to Carlsbad Caverns, and they say it took 250 million years. They did a study on these stalactites. And one guy said: “You know, the fastest they can grow is 2.5 inches per thousand years. That's the maximum growth rate.” I don't think so.
- Here is some 50-inch stalactites growing under the Lincoln Memorial. They did that in 40 years.
- Here is a bat covered up with flowstone before it could even rot.
- Here are 2-inch stalactites growing off a refrigeration shed in Pensacola, Florida.
- Here is a guy in a building in Indiana, built just 40 years ago. It has huge cave formations in the basement of the building from water leaking through the limestone.
- Here's a mine that was shut down in Australia for 55 years. When they opened it back up to check it out, there were already huge cave formations in 55 years.
- Here is a pipe that was dripping water for 7 years. It made a 13-inch stalactite. I thought it was 2.5 inches per thousand years? It's more like 2 inches per year. They broke off the stalagmite that was under it and gave it to me. It's in my museum.
- Here is a parking garage built in 1997 in Texas. It was making stalagmites on the students’ cars parking under it. They had to put up a drip pan to catch the water.
- A guy in Wyoming had a hot mineral spring on his property in Thermopolis, Wyoming; so he stuck a pipe in the ground. The water came out the top of the pipe and bubbled down the side of the top of the pipe, you know. They had a little fountain. They called it the Teepee Fountain. Well, the guy died. They left the pipe sticking in the yard. As the pipe was there, it left behind mineral deposits as the water evaporated. How many have seen these mineral deposits? You get them on your sink up here, ok. The guy died, and about 95 years after the pipe was stuck in the ground, I went to see it. Here it is, back in 1998. That would take some Lime-A-way to scrub that thing clean, don't you think? Yes, a little bit.
- The guy down the street started his later. It's not quite as big, you know.
You know, at the current rate of erosion, the continents will erode flat in 14 million years? Why do they tell us we've got fossils that are 300 times older than that, still above sea level? They should have washed out to sea 300 times. All you've got to do is fly out west and look at the erosion patterns, and say: “Man, this place was destroyed by a flood.” I mean, the whole world was destroyed by a Flood. Just fly around like I do and look out the window once in a while.
Oldest historical records less than 6,000 year old
The oldest languages in the world are kind of interesting. ‘Origin of Major Writing Systems’ from National Geographic. What do they say? Well, they say that the oldest writing systems in the world started about 3000 BC. 5,000 years ago, the oldest writing systems. And “the oldest languages are modern, sophisticated, and complete.” The Chinese said the year 2,000 was the year 4,700. They think they started their calendar with the Flood. They called Noah, Phu Hi. The oldest recorded capital punishment was 3,800 years ago. The Hebrew calendar said the year 2000 was 5760. We know the Hebrew calendar was messed up because a Rabbi purposely took some years out, to make it not match the prophecy to fit Jesus. The Saxons had a genealogy going back to Adam. The Danes and Norwegians had a king list going back to Noah. Don't trust the Egyptian king list. It is greatly exaggerated. See the work by Courville on that, in The Evolution Cruncher. Why are the oldest reliable historical records less than 6,000 years old? Well, I have a theory about that. I bet you know what it is, don't you? Yeah.
Playing tricks on people
That Bible is absolutely right, folks. Absolutely correct, scientifically. The evidence for a young earth is overwhelming. Students aren't taught that. Students are only shown the evidence for an old earth. Remember the coins in the box? They'd better deal with the youngest ones. Not the oldest ones. These books aren't really science books anymore. They are books about evolution. I think it's part of a much bigger picture, for a New World Order. You see, the guys that started this country said: “We hold these truths to be self evident... All men are created equal, they are endowed by their Creator with certain rights.” Like you have the right to have a church, or does the government create churches. It is the difference between 501(c)(3) and 508 (c)(1)(A), you better study that out. You have the right to get married, or is the government give the right to get married. There is a difference between a marriage license and a marriage covenant. Big difference! Better study that out.
But did you know that “75% of kids from Christian homes who go to public schools will reject the Christian faith after one year of college”? That's what happened to Crawford Toy. Most people have never heard of Crawford Toy, but he was a very famous Southern Baptist seminary professor. He almost married a girl named Lottie Moon. Has anybody ever heard of Lottie Moon? You know, you guys have the Lottie Moon offering every Christmas. She was a great missionary to China. Crawford Toy, after the Civil War, went to Europe and learned about evolution. He sucked it in, and believed it. He became an evolutionist. Crawford came back to his Bible class and said: “You know, the Bible intends to teach a plain six-day creation. The Bible is simply in error at that point.” The Bible is in error?! Now Crawford, hold on! Maybe your theory is in error and maybe you got brainwashed. It's very easy to get brainwashed. I am going to try to brainwash the whole crowd, and then we are going to quit and go home. And tomorrow we'll talk about the garden of Eden. What was that like? And why did they live to be 900?
A lesson in brainwashing
But first, I want to try to brainwash everybody. Here's what's gonna happen. I am gonna tell you a little story. As I tell the story, I will brainwash you. Maybe you've never been brainwashed before. It's a harmless procedure. Don't worry about it, ok. When I am done telling the story, I will ask you two simple questions about the story. If you know the answer, I just want you to raise your hand, ok. If you don't know the answer, it will be because you have been successfully brainwashed. Now pay attention, here goes the story.
“Once upon a time, a man left home, jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, and turned left, and jogged back home. As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home.
Who were the masked men? and
Why did he leave home jogging?”
If you know, raise your hand, but don't say it out loud. There are about five or six. The rest of you, pay attention, we are gonna try it again.
“Once upon a time, a man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. I'll give you a hint, that's important. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, turned left, and jogged back home. As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home.
Who were the masked men? and Why did he leave home jogging?”
Anybody new figure it out? ...Two more. The rest of you, pay attention. We are gonna try it one more time. But now I am going to un-brainwash you. See, you didn't realize it, but I had you brainwashed in the first three seconds. I am going to un-brainwash all of you now, just by showing you a couple of pictures. I'll tell the same story word for word, but watch the pictures. You will feel yourself get un-brainwashed. It's the coolest feeling. Are you ready? Here goes.
||“Once upon a time, a man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways and turned left. He jogged a little ways, and turned left, and jogged back home. As he was jogging home, he noticed two masked men waiting for him at home. Who were the masked men? The catcher and the umpire!”
You say: “Brother Hovind, is it that easy to get brainwashed?” Oh yeah! You see, as soon as I said: “A man left home...” You started thinking about a house. And you were off track. And once you get off track, it's pretty tough to get back on.
Would you like to see how kids get brainwashed in your school system by the millions every year? Millions of kids in America, every single year, get brainwashed. And it's so simple how they do it. They put the kid in kindergarten; he can't even read yet. And they give him a book like this: I Can Read About Dinosaurs. Would anybody like to just take a wild guess at what the first sentence in the book says? “Millions of years ago...” And that kid's being thrown off track in the first five seconds. How many kids are being taught that in your town? Like all of them. That's calling Jesus a liar. Did dinosaurs live millions of years ago? Dr. Seuss even says it: “Millions of years before you were born.” Jesus said: “The creation of Adam was the beginning.” (Matt. 19:4) Somebody's wrong, folks!
Now wait a minute, the Bible says before the Flood came, they lived to be 900 years old. How is that possible? Oh, we'll cover that in seminar part #2 tomorrow. What about the Flood? Well, that's covered in video #6. And what about dinosaurs? Well, that's covered on video #3. But listen, you are going to be told in school you started like a slime and you slowly became a human. You be careful, because that philosophy will spoil you. Jesus said: “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” (Col. 2:8) Hey, if a child goes 12 to 16 years to school in your town, how is he gonna view the world? Probably as an evolutionist. If the Bible is right about the beginning, maybe it's right about the end.
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