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Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath (2016-19)  (page 8)

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Back to Main Index ‘Star Witness’  (s3e02 - 27 Nov 2018)
      
      [IMDB: Gold Base, the heavily guarded Scientology compound in Riverside Count, California, houses up to 1,000 members of the church's elite inner core. Valerie Haney tells how the conditions at the base led her to contemplate suicide. She tells her story about her life and escape from the church.]      
 
Go back Valerie Haney's story
 (Incl. Shelly and David Miscavige)
        
At 0:21: “My name is Valerie Haney and I was in the Sea Org for 22 years and three of those years, I worked for David and Shelly Miscavige.”
        
 
At 0:35 screen dump text: “Valerie served as personal aide to Shelly Miscavige, the wife of the leader of Scientology. She was one of the last people to see Shelly in public before her disappearance in 2006.”
 
She does tell various things about her encounters with Shelly Miscavige in this episode, saying she “was her friend” and whom she “was with every single day” until she “she got in the car and left” (at 19:16-22:58).

        
At 7:26: “Valerie Haney: Scientologist for 37 years, Left Gold Base in 2016”
        
37 years in Scientology, born into Scientology (at 7:57), 22 years in SO, left 2016. Thus joined SO 1994. First job 15 years old (at 11:30), therefore born 1979. 37 years of age when ‘escaping’.

        
At 7:57 Valerie Haney: “I was born into Scientology. My parents both worked for the church, for the Sea Organization. And when I was born, there was a rule that was out where you couldn't have kids in the Sea Organization. So they had to leave temporarily to have me and then when the child gets to be six years old, then you can come back.”
        
No mention of abortion practices, confirms rules from ‘FO 3905’, 28 Sept 86 “Children, Sea Org members and Sea Org Orgs” written by ED Int.

Yet another person that claims to have been kept against her will at Gold Base, when she could have just walked out. During 2015-16 (36-37 years old) she could have just stayed out when she “took holidays to Las Vegas where” she “visited” “friends and family” (at 2:11-2:24). When asked why she didn't leave she says (at 2:25) “Because I was scared. I was scared on, if I was to just leave right there, would I have a family? Would they turn my family against me? What are my options?”.
Next “In November 2016” she “left the International Headquarters of Scientology” in a “dramatic escape in the trunk of a car” unbeknownst by the driver (see at 0:11 and 1:52).
Then in “In 2019, Haney sued Scientology for holding her against her will” (Wikipedia), see here (external link) (last checked: 29 May 2024).
Wow, really? How does she think she can win that considering she could have refrained from returning after being outside of the premisis at a variety of ocaissions, but didn't?

In this episode you also will hear from Valerie Haney about beatings perpetrated by Miscavige, the Hole, to which she is adding some additional angles. The TV show already addressed beatings and the Hole in several earlier episodes of the TV show, why the repetition? (at 14:05-21:17)

 
Go back Valerie Haney (2) Leaving the Sea Org and the mental prison (Incl. Mike and Leah admitting an error)
        
At 25:23 Valerie Haney: “We were told that if you do leave, you will have nothing. Any friends, family that I would ever have outside of Scientology or inside of Scientology, you can no longer talk to them. You will basically be committing the biggest sin that you could possibly commit and you'll probably die of cancer.”
        
Wow! The person telling these things to her is certainly making empty threats! None of that is actually true!
        
At 26:28 Mike Rinder: “This is the mental prison. The... the prison of belief that exists. There is the physical, the gates, and the barbed wire, and this and that, which has the effect of stopping you enough that they can grab you. But the real control is mental.”
        

        
At 24:40 Leah Remini: “Explain what happens if you walk up to those gates and tell security, open the gate. I want to leave.”
        
 
At 24:46 Valerie Haney: “Oh, they will physically restrain you. They will physically grab your body and take you away from the gates and walk you to the officials to then get you interrogated and get you handled so you will not want to leave.”
 

Mike and Leah admitting an error
After ‘escaping’ through that car's trunk...
        
At 32:12 Valerie Haney: “Getting out of the trunk was a birth, a rebirth so to say that I got and it's kind of my second chance to live the life I want to live.”
        
 
At 32:30 Leah Remini: “Because your dad's a Scientologist, your dad eventually made you go back and to leave correctly.”
 
 
At 32:38 Valerie Haney: “That's right.”
 
“go back” again...
        
At 32:40 Mike Rinder: “There's two ways of leaving the Sea Organization. One is what's called a blow, an unauthorized departure. The other way is to route out and that is a term used to describe the steps that one must take to leave the Sea Organization and remain not an enemy of Scientology.”
        
Wow-wow-wow! Wasn't the earlier tale, that was claimed several times in earlier episodes in this TV show, that leaving was synonym to be in bad standing with the Church and the issuance of an automatic suppressive person declare?! See for example season 1/episode 1. Now suddenly(?) Mike Rinder knows about this? The same of course applies to Leah Remini, she also suddenly(?) knows about this.
They are factually changing their version of the rules of the game on this! How unsuspecting! Did they learn that from Valerie Haney (or rather her father)?


        
At 33:06 screen dump text: “‘Routing Out’ requires signing a non-disclosure agreement and participating in an exit interview that is recorded.”
        
Really? If you haven't signed something like that whén you joined, you don't have to sign such either at your time of leaving! A “recorded” “exit interview”? The Church has to follow the guidelines written by L. Ron Hubbard about these things, no? There is nothing about recording anything. There is however a thing about a leaving staff security check (this is rather brief). You don't have to sign anything (I didn't), you however are advised to get a written permission that you did the required steps and you can leave. I guess some routines have changed since I left.

        
At 33:51 Mike Rinder: “When someone blows and they get persuaded to come back to route out, many people who come back end up spending weeks and months trying to complete the routing out process.”
        
Yes, that is because they try to convince you to stay. The same was tried on the persons that did not blow and wanted to route out. Problem here is that there are policies that guide that an ‘offload’ is to be done swift and quick.
The Ethics sections of the organization...
        
“... are alerted to a consistent slow on offloading unfit personnel.
        
 
Personnel Policy No. 3 concerning those that want to leave should be effected within 24 hours of first warning.
 
 
Fitness Bd and full line action must be effected in 24 hours.
 
 
There is no reason to delay.”          LRH
(from ‘Flag Conditions Order (FCO) 1329’, 12 Jul 71 “Personnel Policies”)
 
This “Personnel Policy No. 3” is explained in ‘Flag Order 2627RC’, 17 Jul 72:
         “Any person whose product or relations is consistently destructive or a continuing overt act and/or who wishes to leave.”         

 
Back to Main Index ‘Spies Like Us’  (s3e03 - 4 Dec 2018)
      
      [Wiki: Remini and Rinder interview a former Scientology Private Investigator who explains her job within Scientology. Also, Leah and Mike interview one of Mike's closest friends who lost his business because of Scientology.]      
 
Go back The TV show's promotion of desinformation...
Wow, right in the beginning of this episode she is starting with deliberately spreading desinformation. Technically she is in effect... lying!
        
At 0:01 Leah Remini: “So we all know that Scientology has a policy called Fair Game, which calls for the utter destruction of someone speaking out or simply doing a story on Scientology.”
        
While she is speaking these words the TV show is presenting the very first version of this HCO PL.
At 0:03-0:13:  
  
HCO PL 1 Mar 65
lifted quotations supposedly from
HCO PL 1 Mar 65
It is the one from 1 Mar 65, which has been superseded SEVEN times since then (see here, separate window). Does she know NOTHING about cancelled policy letters and how that works? Not anything at all?! She does not... It appears seriously misunderstood how diligently this routine is adhered to in the mimeograph section of the organization, the hat packs*, the filing cabinets and anywhere else. Cancelled means cancelled. No person is working off of a cancelled policy letter, it doesn't happen! Mike Rinder does not say that even!
If you have something that resembles fair game like behaviour as the TV shows reports, then you are dealing with nasty people doing rotten things, that are blindly following orders or instructions coming from some place!

It gets worse... An impression is made as if the two lifted quotations that you see are taken from this HCO PL. In fact they are not! They derive from two other sources:
quote1 is coming from HCO PL 18 Oct 67 IV “Penalties for Lower Conditions” which is cancelled/replaced by HCO PL 21 Jul 68 “Penalties for Lower Conditions”.
quote2 is coming from ‘Ability, Major 1’, [ca. mid-Mar 55] “The Scientologist: A Manual on the Dissemination of Material”, which is interesting as there are some people that claim that it was giving instructions that resemble or caused a practice of fair game. Basically it only presents a technical analysis on a given topic based on studies of human behaviour. After all, isn't that what manuals are? It is a manual not a policy letter.
Here we have Leah Remini, who created the TV show, that is cutting and pasting, just as she sees fit. Essentially she does here as she accuses the Church of Scientology doing.
Does she somehow think that no one can see that she does or will expose her for doing like this? I guess she is getting overconfident and careless... In all the previous episodes thus far when lifted quotations were used, at least they were actually deriving from the reference that was presented, here it is not! She is taking bits and pieces from references just to make a story! It is dishonest.

At 0:18:
       Manual of Justice
Here it presents a lifted quotation from the ‘Manual of Justice’ (1959). The quotation taken reads “Hire a private detective...”. It is for use only by HCO personnel and targets specific areas for specific reasons. Leah Remini distorts all that. The release by the way is confidential, something that Leah Remini also forgets to inform about. It is a guide about what to do if you are attacked. Does Leah Remini imply one may not defend oneself or organization when attacked?
I present some key points of this publication here (separate window). See the “four phases”.

Hats off to Leah Remini. It seems that all bets are off now! You take texts out of context, take cancelled references, post lifted quotations supposedly taken from the reference presented, and then it is used as she pleases or suits her purpose. That is false...

Mike Rinder claims this about the ‘Manual of Justice’:
        
At 3:33: “That document calls for the harassment, the investigation, the destruction of anyone deemed an enemy of Scientology.”
        
Thus “anyone deemed an enemy”? No, that is not why it was written. Read the manual! If these Church ‘representatives’ were following that it says, then they would not go about it in such a manner as they do, would they now! Out there you have culties doing stupid things and harass for no reason. You look, expose them for what they are and you tell them.
They are essentially a means of defence, not for attack. “never punish beyond our easy ability to remedy by auditing and restoration”. The “four phases” remember...

 
Go back The Church's harassment of Robert Almblad
        
At 22:44 “Robert Almblad: Sea Org member for 5 years, left Scientology in 2011”
        
 
At 22:39: “My name is Robert Almblad, and I was a Scientologist for 45 years.”
 
 
At 23:17 “I started in Scientology in the early ’70s.”
 
 
At 23:41 screen dump text: “In 1975, Robert and his wife left the Sea Org, but remained practicing Scientologists.”
 

Robert Almblad is an inventor, and he offered a job to Mike Rinder because he figured that he needed one. Mike Rinder accepted the offer. This was heading for trouble because of the Church.

        
At 27:07 Leah Remini: “And you've been a longtime Scientologist. Were you familiar with the Fair Game policies and the Suppressive Acts policy that Scientology has?”
        
 
At 27:16 Robert Almblad: “Yes, I'm very familiar with them, but it was never like this. Certainly, I never knew anything about what they were doing in... and this would be 2011.”
 
 
At 27:46 Leah Remini: “So we have this idea of a suppressive person is a person who is doing heinous acts towards mankind.”
 
 
At 27:56 Robert Almblad: “Yes. And I did believe that anyone who was declared was either working on getting undeclared, or they really were declared because they were like Hitler or Mussolini or some other historical figure that was totally destructive to humanity. And you couldn't save 'em anyway, so you'd stick 'em over in the corner, right? Good, that sounds like a good thing to do.”
 
A reasonable take per what was written, ain't that so...

Then how would you take this, that the Church made of it?
        
At 28:30 Robert Almblad: “I was surprised that anyone in the church would have gone to the extent that they did with me for, frankly, no good reason except for employing Mike Rinder. I never uttered a disparaging word about Scientology or L. Ron Hubbard, ever... not in private and not in public... and they attacked me like I was Hitler.
        
 
In addition to going after me personally, they also went against my girlfriend. They called up her elderly parents, her friends, her ex-husband, every person that they could find, and did the same thing about being private investigators and reporters and they're investigating Robert Almblad for any crimes that he maybe had committed. They did the same thing to every neighbor I had. I lived in a neighborhood on an island with 14 houses on the island, and they went around to all my neighbors, every one of them, knocked on the door with a bodyguard, with a camera, with a reporter, and knocked on the door and said, ‘You know the guy here on that house, Robert Almblad? Have you seen him committing any crimes?’”
 
Does this sound like a correct application as per the guidelines found in the ‘Manual of Justice’?

Mike Rinder nonetheless still persists with...
        
At 32:37: “They were doing just everything that you can do according to the policy of L. Ron Hubbard of how you noisily investigate someone.”
        
Wow! Really Mike? Doesn't Mike Rinder understand that you can exaggerate matters into the utter extreme for no reason? Where does it say you do that? Is that what L. Ron Hubbard wrote, and you do have to take it in proper context, where does it say you do such crazy stuff with no boundaries!
Didn't L. Ron Hubbard write in the ‘Manual of Justice’, that it “must be done on the basis of clear-cut evidence and the person to be guilty must be guilty beyond reasonable doubt”, and never take it too far, “When you punish a man you punish also his family and friends. Even if you slayed the man you would then still have his friends and family as your enemies. If you slay everyone he knew – why, they have friends and families, too – and at last you've a whole populace against you. You punish a man. He goes away to join the ranks of the squirrels*. You swell the opposition. Don't do it.”  LRH.
How does this apply to what was done to Robert Almblad, his family, his neighbours, girlfriend and so on and on?

        
At 34:15 Robert Almblad: “I have these people constantly calling the board of directors for the companies I was working with. All of them are public companies. They're all more than $1 billion in sales or value. And they can't afford to deal with the Church of Scientology. They just said to me, ‘You cannot do this to us. We like working with you. We've worked with you for years. We're doing over $100 million in sales of your inventions. But we will not work with you if you bring this church here’.”
        
 
At 34:48 Mike Rinder: “Robert went off to have a separate meeting with one of these companies at a hotel conference room, and these people literally burst into the room with cameras and threw stuff on the table and telling these people that Robert was talking to, ‘Here, read this’. And it's, you know, ‘Robert Almblad: Financier of Hate Crimes’.”
 
 
At 35:09 Robert Almblad: “I had to physically take them by this, and I threw them out the door. And you can't imagine the looks on someone's face, someone who's, like, getting paid more than $1 million a year to run a public company, and they have this nuttiness coming in. I mean, I was already nutty enough because I'm an inventor of new stuff, right? So they always have to look at me very carefully. So now you know what else I brought in. I brought in these nuts from the Church of Scientology. And it scared the bejesus out of them.”
 
“nuttiness” indeed...

This is rather astonishing, do neither Leah Remini and Mike Rinder realize whát they are dealing with here?! Whére the order is coming from? And it isn't L. Ron Hubbard his policies... It is nuts to even consider that, look!!! What does L. Ron Hubbard say, and compare with what the Church does!

 
Go back Robert Almblad (2) damage caused by the Church... for no reason
        
At 24:06 Mike Rinder: “And that was how I first came to meet you, when you were working here in Tarpon Springs on developing a clean ice machine.”
        
 
At 36:03: “Well, they couldn't persuade Robert Almblad to fire me, so they figured they'd put him out of business and then I wouldn't have a job. So they conducted a campaign not just against him personally but to try and destroy his business. Even though that business was something that would benefit and potentially save lives, that didn't matter.”
 
 
At 37:50 Robert Almblad: “Having that technology, which I had close to $1 million into... now, that's my own money, my savings, my life savings... and then to get it stopped, it was heartbreaking. And so yeah, it was devastating for me, absolutely devastating to see that I didn't... I just didn't get it there.”
 

 
Back to Main Index ‘Unlikely Pairing’  (s3e04 - 11 Dec 2018)
      
      [IMDB: Leah and Mike explore the new symbiosis between the Nation of Islam and Scientology. In recent years the head of the Nation of Islam, Minister Louis Farrakhan, publicly embraced Dianetics and the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard and supported their use in NOI Mosques. ]      
Here is the effort of the Church of Scientology moving into the Black community through the Nation of Islam. It is the breaking of new ground, and an opportunity to observe the process.
Followed by that which we can call grooming of Scientology in the mind of the parishioners à la David Miscavige.

 
Go back The Nation of Islam taken on by the Church of Scientology?
        
At 1:16 Leah Remini: “Tonight, we're going to be discussing a strange alliance, an alliance that I had a lot to do with, and that's between the Nation of Islam and the Church of Scientology.”
        

        
At 1:31 screen dump text: “The Nation of Islam is an African American religious and political movement that was formed in the 1930s.”
        
 
At 1:47: “Believing African Americans would never gain equality in the U.S., their leaders emphasized the need to separate from white Americans.”
 
 
At 2:28: “Louis Farrakhan, their leader since 1978.”
 
 
At 4:24: “In 2010, Farrakhan began promoting the benefits of L. Ron Hubbard's ‘Dianetics.’.”
 

        
At 4:52 Mike Rinder: “They are such strange bedfellows, because Scientology believes that all other faiths, all other religions are worthless. The only valuable religion on earth is Scientology. And since its inception, Scientology has been traditionally white. If you look back at historical photos of the early Scientology organizations, they are exclusively white.”
        
It started in the 50's, why is that strange or unexpected? It were the intelligentsia that got interested in Dianetics. People may remember that coloured people were mostly denied such education. What point does Mike Rinder try to make here?
His claim as if “Scientology believes that all other faiths, all other religions are worthless” is as untrue as it can get! What is true is that people from all dominations were welcome, it does not matter from which belief they came. Also no efforts were made at all to have any person to abandon his or her belief. So, where is Mike Rinder getting this from?!

        
At 5:22 Mike Rinder: “Isaac Hayes, who was perhaps the only prominent black Scientology celebrity went to David Miscavige, the leader of Scientology, and said, why are there no organizations being created in black communities? ...”
        
Did Isaac Hayes really ask that? Source?
        
[cont.] ... “David Miscavige became convinced that the way to get into the black community was through the Nation of Islam and that he would use celebrities of Scientology in order to reach out to the Nation of Islam. That's where Leah Remini came in.”
        
 
At 5:57 Leah Remini: “I was approached by Scientology to bridge the gap between Scientology and the black community. And I wanted to do that. ...”
 
At IAS events they did show extracts of speeches of Louis Farrakhan that favoured Dianetics and L. Ron Hubbard.
        
[cont.] ... “I had no idea what the Nation of Islam was. Again, I don't want to excuse myself, because I should have done my due diligence. But I honestly was a Scientologist, and we were not questioning what our church was asking us to do. We were not going online. We were not investigating people. We were not doing what we should have been doing, which was looking.”
        
This is the gullible submitting Leah Remini again. She made that choice. If you are familiar with Scientology writings it certainly does not urge you to be gullible! There is this data evaluation series and an array of tools and guidelines found in Scientology for use.

        
At 7:06 “Ishmael Bey: Former member of the Nation of Islam”
        
 
At 7:06 Mike Rinder: “We're going to talk to Ishmael Bey. He was a member of the Nation of Islam for 10 years and has separated himself from that, I guess, at least in part, or maybe in all, because of the infiltration of Scientology into the Nation of Islam.”
 

        
At 8:19 Leah Remini: “When you're talking about teaching people to be independent, independent from...”
        
 
At 8:25 Ishmael Bey: “Independent from the dependency on the Caucasian. You know, as black people, we have to make sure that we are able to build our own institutions, to have pride in ourselves, and not to be dependent on anyone else.”
 
 
At 8:38 Mike Rinder: “If I walked into a Nation of Islam mosque... and I said, hey, guys, I want to join up. What would happen?”
 
 
At 8:49 Ishmael Bey: “Caucasian people are not allowed into the temple or into the mosque. If we had a general meeting, like maybe we were doing something at a convention center, Caucasians are able to attend, but not at the actual spiritual meetings.”
 
 
At 9:19: “And now, they do have Caucasians that do come into the mosque in order to teach Scientology. So that is an exception that they make, as well as they deal with... they say that Scientology gives them the clearance in order to have access. So that is being taught.”
 

Ishmael Bey tells that the Nation of Islam seriously started promoting Scientology. It got to:
        
At 17:50 Leah Remini: “They asked me to sponsor Tony Muhammad.”
        
 
At 17:52 Ishmael Bey: “Tony Muhammad. He's definitely one of the key members of the Nation of Islam, basically the west coast regional minister of the Nation of Islam. And he was one of the key people that brought in this influx of Nation of Islam members. If we go on the Scientology website, we see Tony Muhammad right there prominently.”
 
 
At 18:20 Tony Muhammad (Scientology promo video): “I have become a better Muslim as a result of my relationship to the Church of Scientology. The world should be grateful that, in our lifetime, along came a being known as Mr. L. Ron Hubbard. We say that when a man comes along like that, his name should be mentioned right along with the names of the saints. And we are thankful to Almighty God that a human being like Mr. Hubbard came this way.”
 
He also received the IAS Freedom Medal (2017)...
        
At 19:23 Tony Muhammad (at IAS event): “A man that I would run into any battle with, that man is the chairman of the board, Mr. David Miscavige.”
        

        
At 22:12: “Hector Falu-Muhammad: Member of Nation of Islam for 26 years”
        
 
At 22:07 Mike Rinder: “Now, we're joined by Hector Falu-Muhammad, member of the Nation of Islam for 26 years and has experience from the inside the infiltration of Scientology into the Nation of Islam.”
 

The two quests thus far appearing in the episode of the TV show tell that “questioning Scientology” started not to be allowed within the Nation of Islam, and if you did say something you would become an outcast and "smeared". Serious accusations will be received. (at 22:44-25:17)
        
At 25:35 Ismael Bey: “There's been a command that came from a member of Minister Farrakhan's personal staff. He said that if anyone is critical of Minister Farrakhan to attack them like a hornet's nest.”
        
Mike Rinder asks if this “is a new concepts that didn't exist before the engagement with Scientology”.
        
At 25:57 Hector Falu-Muhammad: “This is very, very, very, new.”
        
 
At 25:59 Ismael Bey: “It was very recent, yeah.”
 
Hector Falu-Muhammad tells before even if someone “offended you” “we always sat down” and “reach out, and we talk to each other.”
        
At 26:29: “Whereas after the Scientology infiltration, if you disagreed, you got blocked. You got deleted. They stopped talking to you. ... You know, you start to be labeled an enemy. You're told, hey, you better stop talking about Scientology. You're going to get put out the mosque, almost as if Dianetics is the law now of Nation of Islam.”
        

 
Go back A first step: The setup of the Ideal Org
        
At 30:42 Ismael Bey: “What we're noticing with Scientology is that they're investing millions and millions of dollars into real estate into our communities that are traditionally, you know, black communities, you know. They're investing in Ideal Org in Atlanta. They have one in Harlem, New York, you know. They're going to be moving into Detroit. And they have one that's in Inglewood, California. So these are not small investments. They're investing big money into something that we have to be abreast of.”
        

A proposed concept of the Ideal Org initiative:
        
At 32:39 Mike Rinder: “It's the same stuff that is being done, the pretense of we're here to help the community. But really, what we're doing is we're just puffing up our real estate portfolio and pretending to our Scientologists that look how we're expanding. Because Scientologists are convinced that with the opening of each one of these new church organizations, L. Ron Hubbard's technology is spreading further and helping more people in the world. Literally, that is what they believe.”
        
It is really not untrue.

You start with creating a new Scientology organization a so-called Ideal Org that is being paid for by the Church through among other Scientology parishioners and as proposed by Mike rinder) the use of funds coming in from the “tax-exempt status” of the Church (at 31:15). Discussed here is Inglewood org there Leah Remini got involved as she “wanted to open up a mission in Inglewood” (at 32:12). She received a written commendation on her person (confidential at that) there it says “It was also Leah Remini who helped with a huge initial dono [slang: donation] towards the establishment of the Inglewood Org Cycle in the Black and Latino communities.” (at 33:53)


        
At 33:40: “Tiponi Grey: Former Inglewood Staff member”
        
 
At 33:39 Leah Remini: “Tiponi Grey worked at the Inglewood Organization of Scientology.”
 

She was invited by a friend “to come down to this place ... and to take a personality test”. There she was offered “a job” which she accepted. The “reason” she was “interested” ... (at 35:15- )
        
At 36:08 Tiponi Grey: “... was basically because of my spirituality. I was trying to grow spiritually. And then they were telling me all these levels, and these OT levels and everything, and they were saying how I can grow spiritually. So that was the main reason why I did join them.”
        
 
At 36:43 Leah Remini: “So what did you learn in Scientology that gave you those answers that you were seeking?”
 
 
At 36:48 Tiponi Grey: “I didn't really learn anything in Scientology. They tell it to you like you're going to reach this higher level of consciousness. It was like a whole lie.”
 
This does not sound like she did do any service there. Study, auditing? Leah Remini should have asked her.
        
At 37:31 Leah Remini: “So what were they doing as far as community services? Were they going out to the public and saying, we'd like to offer you, you know, free lectures? We'd like to offer you some counseling. We'd like to offer you... They weren't doing that?”
        
 
At 37:45 Tiponi Grey: “No. The only thing that they did was they had people go out and hand out flyers and invite people to come and take a free personality test.”
 
 
At 37:57 Leah Remini: “Once somebody comes in for a personality test, the whole purpose of that is to get people in, to get them just buy Scientology courses.”
 
 
At 38:05 Tiponi Grey: “Right, right, to be calling yourself a church and then demanding that the public pay for all this help... pay for this book, pay for that course, pay for this... it was... is ridiculous. I was like, you're not going to get anybody in here like this. Let's give them something. And they just didn't want to give anything.”
 

        
At 40:10 Leah Remini: “Were people in the Ideal Org of Inglewood?”
        
 
At 40:14 Tiponi Grey: “It's a beautiful building. It's beautiful inside, but there's no people there. In the daytime, there was mostly about may be 10 people there [staff]. And like three or four in the classroom in the public class.”
 
 
At 40:33: “They have that site and then they have another one. They had the community center. And I went over there, and it's abandoned. It's nobody there.”
 

 
Go back What became of Scientology under the helm of David Miscavige? - A ‘hidden’ scenario...  
(Incl.: Leah Remini and Mike Rinder...)
This gives some clue of what has become of Scientology under the control of David Miscavige. A proper application of the technology that has slowly but steadily been filtered out over the years and even decades, this since the early 80s.

You put an Ideal Org there, paid for by the Scientology parishioner.

You get people in through doing some stress test or OCA test* and you have them do basic courses like “How to Safe Your Marriage”, “Success Through Communication”, “Personal Efficiency”, “The Dynamics of Money”, “Scientology Introductory Auditing” and that sort of thing.

Next you talk about this Bridge preparing you for the spirituality on these upper levels of Scientology called the OT levels which will give you the knowledge and understanding of the world, or so you are told. What is not being done though is doing the original route as was setup by L. Ron Hubbard. Instead you let people just attest to various things, like the steps on your lower Bridge. You don't do Dianetics (the original Standard Dianetics (1969) is even forbidden), you hardly do any Scientology Grades, you definitely do not do Grade VI-VII, which essentially was the goal of Scientology. There you can you filter out these things, you make excuses, you remove the mandatory label. You let people however do other things for example Objective processes for hundreds of hours (they came with that in 2012).
A good trick to pull here is to also have the parishioner do it in the wrong sequence. You let them start with Scientology Grades and not Dianetics. Then make it impossible to let them have Dianetics by ordaining it is forbidden (deadly at that) to receive Dianetics if you had attested Clear (they decided that in 1978). Unlike before it will deceided for you when you reach that ‘state’ of Clear, originating some phrase in the Clear Certainty Rundown should be enough. The original Dianetics runs engrams, and now... you can't.

It is also a good thing that the Church does get rid of old original materials, they even labeled them as squirrel* materials. They needed to be destroyed, which was done all over the world. In Clearwater, Florida they even got into the homes and berthing of Scientologists and took them from the shelves. Just imagine people going through these and finding out what they are missing out on. No, we can't have that. You demand people to take a license which gives them the ‘right’ to practice Scientology, but then ónly the version that the Church approves of. A problem is that you can't demand these things, as legally you can't claim a copyright on a practice (L. Ron Hubbard determined that already in ‘Dianetics’ 1950). Therefore you use the tool of intimidation to have the parishioner obey.

You also can't have the modern Scientology parishioners to be too smart. You need to get the follower type of persons that will do as they are told, that believe that you will tell them. Which is so very unlike the public that came in during the 50s and 60s, who now pose a thread and that you massively have to discard of them for false or unclear reasons, which was done during 1982-83. If they didn't leave on their own acord you simply declare them.

Thus far while doing your lower Bridge, you were attesting to all sorts of things for processing that you mostly haven't run in session. At the same time you were urged and urged again to give lots and lots of money to all sorts of projects that the Church promotes. You have your donation status in the IAS, you arrange fund raising barbecue parties for buying buildings for Ideal Orgs (which L. Ron Hubbard explicitly forbade), books to libraries, the list goes on and on and on. Doing Scientology however never was about paying money for no service in return.

Finally your upper Bridge. Now you get to OT. Here they will ask you lots of money for doing these OT levels, that never seem to end, takes you years and even decades. The more time something will they crave the more money you will be able to extract. Considering that the original OT levels were rather inexpensive and pretty short cycles, some weeks or some month sat the most. A problem is that people that commence on these ‘OT levels’ but that have not run the steps from the lower Bridge properly as they should have, they will not make it on the upper Bridge. That which is not in reach, that you do not see, you can not run. You can try for decades and you still will not advance.

You do also everything possible to keep your sheep in the Church under control, allow them as little as possible contact with the outside world, make them depending on you. You don't educate them how to survive in that outside world, you discourage the use of newspapers, television and the Internet (you install the Net-Nanny software on computers). You then have your flock inform on each other. If someone does something you don't like, you isolate them, from family and anything else (disconnection on their own determination, which it is not).
It is also pounded upon time and time again, anywhere and everywhere that “We the Church are the only ones having the original technology!”. The message therewith is given that if you leave, do something we don't like, don't do something we tell you to do, that you will effectively lose your only road to total freedom. So you are made to believe.
Also see to it that you give impressions of huge expansions of Scientology. You keep these carrots floating and alive.

There is a prediction from L. Ron Hubbard about this here (separate window), and ever since it has also been documented. Unfortunately it is still easier to be that follower...

Leah Remini and Mike Rinder...
It is interesting here that neither Leah Remini or Mike Rinder have factually understood that there once existed an original Scientology that has been replaced by this business concept of making money, money and more money, calling this Scientology when it isn't. Followers like Leah Remini and Mike Rinder have not been finding out about things, they just follow, first this and then something else. Just forget about any deeper investigation into matters from people like that! They were fooled when they were in, and they are fooled now that they are out. Some version of the original Scientology is still available in the Freezone and Independent Scientology, but even there it is buyer aware, as many there have accepted the altered technology and route from 1978.
The principles of the original Scientology are about diametrically opposed to what Scientology has become today in the Church of that name. Who however can see that, or even wants to?

 
Back to Main Index ‘Where is Shelly?’  (s3e05 - 18 Dec 2018)
      
      [IMDB: Leah and Mike interview Shelly's childhood friend Janis Gillham Grady and together they attempt to explain the mysterious disappearance of the First Lady of Scientology.]      
 
Go back Leah Remini and Shelly Miscavige
        
At 1:19 Mike Rinder: “When David Miscavige's wife, Shelly, didn't show up at the Tom Cruise wedding of the century, it was a very, very strange state of affairs. Leah was the only person who said something about that. It set off a chain of events which ultimately led to Leah leaving Scientology, and it was also a very significant moment in the history of Scientology. Because it changed a lot of the media focus about Scientology.”
        
This marriage took place on 18 Nov 2006 at the 15th-century Odescalchi Castle in Bracciano, in a Scientologist ceremony attended by many Hollywood stars.

        
At 4:41 Leah Remini: “So after Tom Cruise's wedding, I was punished for asking where the leader's wife was. I'm asking where Shelly Miscavige is, because I knew Shelly. Because I considered Shelly a friend.”
        
 
At 5:01: “Look, I have correspondence from Shelly going back to 2003.”
 
After the incident at the marriage Leah Remini would “start writing Shelly letters again”.

        
At 5:35: “As time went on, I started to see reports of other people leaving, other executives leaving and talking about abuse. It was the moment where I was saying, ‘I don't want to be part of an organization’ that is allegedly beating its members, holding them in this place called The Hole ...
        
 
After hearing nothing from Shelly after six years, I said, ‘This is enough.’ So I did what I felt I had to do, which was file a police report.”
 
        
At 6:18 screen dump text: “In 2013, Leah filed a missing persons report with the Los Angeles Police Department.”
        

        
At 6:51 screen dump text: “After an investigation, the Los Angeles Police Department stated that they met with Shelly Miscavige and the case was closed.”
        
We are not provided with any details here from this LAPD or anyone. Did they meet anyone, if they met anyone did they establish that is t really was her, how did they establish that, and so on.

A letter is presented in the episode received from the Church of Scientology. The language used is inappropriate as it reads:
        
At 7:15: “Miss Remini also continues her obnoxious efforts to harass the leader of the Church of Scientology and his wife with whom Miss Remini has been obsessed and has stalked for years.”
        
All Leah Remini did was trying to get a confirmation from Shelly that she was alright, which she never received. And this is called “stalked”? Odd is also that it includes “the leader of the Church of Scientology”, whatever does David Miscavige got to do with this? Leah Remini's efforts were directed primarily or only to Shelly Miscavige. A simple letter, just a simple letter from Shelly or may be a phone call to Leah Remini could have enervated the situation. Why was this not done, why? Instead this letter, which is really not a good indication at all. Now you know something is wrong...

        
At 8:27 Mike Rinder: “She could be sick. She could have died. She may be being held against her will. There is an almost unlimited number of theories. All of those come about because Scientology has never explained it.”
        
The question remains as ever, “Where is Shelly?” ...

 
Go back Missing persons: Shelly Miscavige vs L. Ron Hubbard
        
At 7:46 Leah Remini: “Scientology is probably the only organization that could put people forward, like Shelly Miscavige who was very visible in the Scientology community, then take them away, and then say we don't need to answer you where a human being is.”
        
And they did that with L. Ron Hubbard and they did that with Shelly Miscavige. Being the common denominator the Church of Scientology or may be rather David Miscavige.

As a comparison, Shelly Miscavige has been a public figure and then suddenly no one sees her anymore. Now didn't the same happen with L. Ron Hubbard, he wasn't seen either in public anymore, although he always had been an outspoken and public figure, but we still have to believe everything was fine with him? If we are thinking that the situation with Shelly Miscavige, to say the least, was strange, then why would anyone think that L. Ron Hubbard would have been alright and not strange? In both occurrences David Miscavige was closely involved with the happenings.

Isn't it the strangest thing that L. Ron Hubbard was to prove he was alive and well through three letters written with special ink? Read about that here (separate window).
Now, why did Shelly Miscavige not reply to the letters that Leah Remini had send to her? Would it not have been a Scientology thing to actually communicate and clear up things?

 
Go back Janis Gillham Grady, the Apollo and Commodore's Messengers (1)
        
At 9:23 screen dump text: “Leah and Mike are on their way to meet Janis Gillham Grady, a childhood friend of Shelly's.”
        
 
At 10:51 “Janis Gillham Grady: Scientologist for 34 years, Served in the Sea Org for 22 years, Left the Sea Org in 1990”
 
 
At 10:47: “I'm Janice Gillham Grady, an original Commodore's Messenger for L. Ron Hubbard with Shelly Miscavige.”
 

        
At 11:01: “I went to the ship in January of '68, and in 1970, Clarise showed up, Shelly's older sister. So we already knew each other, and then a couple years later Shelly showed up, and she was, like, 12 years old.”
        

The telling of Janis Gillham Grady from the years on the ship the Apollo is worrying because she does not paint a particular pleasant picture of the treatment of the children on the ship that were that young an age. According to her they were groomed to become Commodore's Messengers, serving L. Ron Hubbard basically with all sorts of errands. The parents do not appear to be present either.
        
At 15:08: “On the ship, our schooling was laid out by LRH. We were never taught history, geography, science, you know, none of that stuff.”
        
Which is certainly nót a good thing. Then we have the concept of “working for the man who was leading the way to saving the planet”. What's that? The impression given by Janis Gillham Grady is that it was pretty much all about serving that individual.
        
At 12:09: “We're here to save the planet. We're helping people, making it a better world, and since the ship was too big for him to walk around to look for somebody, so Messengers were assigned to him to be his legs and run around the ship to find people and to carry dispatches.”
        
There are some problems with the telling, because she does not properly date the incidents. She has stated in her book that ...
        
“As a child of 11, in January 1968, I arrived on the Scientology ship, the Royal Scotman where I became an original Commodore’s Messenger for L. Ron Hubbard. Over the next 11 years I spent six hours or more a day with L. Ron Hubbard, until December of 1979”
        

Scientolipedia states that “From 1968 to 1975, the Apollo was her home.” (source, external link (last checked: 10 Apr 2013)). She may have stayed on the ship till somewhere late 1975.

She thus stated “I spent six hours or more a day with L. Ron Hubbard”. There should be an obvious exception however regarding the period 4 Dec 72-mid Sept 73 during which time L. Ron Hubbard was missing and no one knew where he was. An additional problem arose when at the end of that period, the person that finally returned, according to various witness accounts, that changes were observed that were out of character for the person that they knew. For example he had not taken care of his physical appearance, didn't seem to recognize persons that he should have, and has ever since been withdrawing from public appearances which is in strong contrast to the public person that he had been prior to that. Janis Gillham Grady however insists it was the same person, and she is just one of a few persons saying that. I and other persons as well have several times approached her to provide more details about matters, but she was never willing to oblige to any of that. She is simply dismissing all of that. There have been various hectic clashes with for example Randy McDonald. It is a real pity that she will not organize her memories and date them. There is quite a bit at stake there, but she refuses. She was 14 years of age when L. Ron Hubbard went missing and she was 15 years when he returned. Does she realize that youngsters at that age are pregnable?
Did she still spend “six hours or more a day” in the period Sept 73 to late 1975. And what about the period after the Apollo had been abandoned? If you abandon ship and move to inland you will face a different situation and conditions.

There are rather many indications that something was amiss. Just Sept 73 was already a strange month and matters went into a different direction. See summary here (separate window).
Ever since that time technical degrades could be observed that were not anymore reversed. Slowly but gradually, step by step, careful not to directly alarm anyone, it basically went sour. In Aug 73 the handling of the condition of PTS was changed, Aug 74 redefined Fast Flow Training and with that a first step was take to abandon the Primary Rundown (PRD*). And it went on and on and on till the original Bridge was literally turned upside down during 1978-82, violating earlier established basics.

 
Go back ‘Other Messengers’ vs Storytelling... (2)
        
At 16:32 Mike Rinder: “Sea Org members are raised in an environment where physical and mental abuse is the norm.”
        
As opposed to that strict control is required on a ship at sea. Which is it? You can easily tell a story or an interpretation, change it a bit and give it a different angle. A problem is that not all people that had been on the ship share the same accounts. On the Internet there are just a few persons talking, and they have been the same persons for years. You keep talking if you are dissatisfied or if you simply made yourself a career talking and publishing about it. It obvious needs a proper investigation and not just storytelling... We are lacking a consistency.

        
At 17:00 Mike Rinder: “One of the other Messengers told me that Hubbard had said to her, ‘I am treating you like the Hitler Youth’ in that I want you away from your parents so the influence on you is based on me and the Sea Organization. I don't want anything interfering with that in the way that you are raised.”
        
 
At 18:18 Janis Gillham Grady: “One of the other Messengers showed me a dispatch that Hubbard had written to the guardian's office asking them to check into him adopting children from an orphanage around the age of 10 and 11 so that there are no parents influencing them, and that way, he can adopt them and train them into Messengers.”
 
Both Mike Rinder and Janis Gillham Grady repeat stories told by “other Messengers”. Who are they, how are you going to verify the authenticity of that it tells. There is no way you can do that here... Don't Leah Remini and Mike Rinder understand that it needs more than this?!

 
Go back Waiting for the return of L. Ron Hubbard?
A strange notion is forwarded by Tom DeVocht (“former Sea Org executive who became very close to Dave and Shelly Miscavige”) that suggests that the highest executives in Scientology upper management put up with a situation with David Miscavige “losing it” because they are waiting for L. Ron Hubbard to come back. Tom DeVocht says that Norman Starkey expressed that to him. He thinks that Mark Yager, Mark Ingber, Guillaume Lesêvre, Ray Mithoff and even Shelly Miscavige have such a belief. Ah well...
        
At 33:37 Mike rinder: “Scientologists believe you live many lifetimes. They also believe that L. Ron Hubbard will return to finish his work in Scientology. Part of that belief is based on the fact that L. Ron Hubbard directed that houses be constructed for his return on various Scientology properties around the United States. I believe that there are six of them that are being built to very detailed specifications for the accommodation of L. Ron Hubbard in his next lifetime.”
        
Really? And I thought L. Ron Hubbard did “finish his work in Scientology” rather adequately. He announced that as early as 1970. To come back, what for? Save some top management executives from...? And where does the information about that “fact that L. Ron Hubbard directed that houses be constructed for his return” come from? Is that “fact”? Never heard about that...
I did look into that at one time and found this here (separate window).
L. Ron Hubbard returning? That may not be so likely after all...

 
Back to Main Index ‘Ideal Orgs’  (s3e06 - 1 Jan 2019)
      
      [Wiki: Under the leadership of David Miscavige, Scientology has been purchasing large buildings to use as upgraded church locations, celebrated as “Ideal Orgs.” The church claims that the new buildings signal the rapid expansion of Scientology, but former members and critics say otherwise. In this episode, Leah and Mike interview Paul Burkhart, a former Ideal Org architect, and Bert Schippers, a former Scientologist who was a major Ideal Org donor.]      
 
Go back Buy your org a building
        
At 1:01 Mike Rinder: “Churches of Scientology around the world are called Orgs... Organizations. There are two types of Orgs. The original, normal Org, and now this new thing called an Ideal Org. The Ideal Org program began in the early 2000s and,
        
 
A, it's a way of demonstrating or proving to Scientologists in the world that Scientology is expanding because it's opening new buildings.
 
 
It is also a way of collecting money from Scientologists who are told that they need to be donating funds to build these Ideal Orgs, and
 
 
it is a way of preventing a problem with the IRS of excessive accumulation of funds by investing it in real estate rather than just holding it as cash.”
 
The Ideal Org deal was thought up at Seattle Org in 2001. The events about Ideal Orgs, with tape plays send to all orgs worldwide, were initiated since mid 2004. It was adding to the IAS money asking events. Here again another burden to have you pay money for no service in return.
This is the first time I hear about the IRS argument that is mentioned here.

The concept...
        
At 7:22 Leah Remini: “So, David Miscavige creates this illusion that we have all these buildings so that means that we're expanding. All these buildings mean there's thousands and thousands of people going in to these buildings. That's the myth. That's the myth that he sells to every Scientologist, including me, who believed it.”
        
Displaced responsibility... (the org is responsible, not the parishioners or public)
        
[cont.] “And that concept that we're growing and expanding is used to justify extracting more money. So Scientologists not only have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for their Scientology counseling, then they're told, "Look, it is your responsibility" to help us... Scientology... to buy these big, fancy buildings.”
        
The routine...
        
[cont.] “So a big production is made, right? They fly in people from other Scientology churches, and most of these people are staff. So there's a big production, and they show this video of thousands of people in the parking lot, and the audience... this big ribbon cutting thing. And then when that's done, those people go back to where they came from and nobody is there.”
        

This whole Ideal Org thing néver should have made any sense at all! You see anyone that is familiar with the conditions forumulas that are in use in Scientology can already figure out something is awry! It is quite simple really. The Ideal Org concept is that you start with your perfect building, but this goes against the conditions formulas. If an organization is doing well, it gets into an Affluence production. If you get into Affluence it means you are in for expanding the space you work there you can service more people, you move into Power or Power Change. Nów you have reason to get a bigger building! The Ideal Org concept takes matters in reverse. You see how this one goes?! And this is just one aspect of it! I never spent a single dime to any Ideal Org. There is exact clear-cut policy for that the organization gets a new building, when needed, paid for by the public through taking services, of which a percentage is placed in a fund, to prepare for these things. You don't ask your public to buy your building for you? Are ya kidding? Who falls for that? Many apparently...

A detailed study about the Ideal Org initiative can be consulted at link here below:  (separate window)
    “‘The Ideal Org’ versus the real estate broker”

 
Go back Crazy business... (Incl.: The drill...; Knowledge report written for saying no)
        
At 9:52 screen dump text: “Leah and Mike are meeting with Bert Schippers, a former Scientologist who was a major donor to the Seattle Ideal Org program.”
        
 
At 11:55 Bert Schippers: “I was a Scientologist for 23 years.”
 
There was a declare on Bert Schippers and Lynne Hoverson-Schippers on 12 Jun 2011 (presented on the TV show at 29:29).

This one is wholly on Leah Remini and the gullibles:
        
At 10:06 Leah Remini to Bert Schippers: “Thanks for talking to us. I know you had a little bit of a concern in doing so because you feel like, looking back on it now, like, ‘What was wrong with me? Why did I do all of this? Why was I in it for so long? Why was I that dumb?’”
        
 
At 10:23 Bert Schippers: “Stupid, yeah.”
 
 
At 10:26 Leah Remini: “You and... and every one of us feel the same way. Even the other day I was talking to my mom who's been in it her whole life and she's like, "I don't... I feel like I wasted my whole life". You know? And it was, like, really sad. It was like a sad moment because you have such a sense of purpose when you're a Scientologist. You have such a sense of this false kind of, you know, you're... you're doing something for the world. And you're... saving the planet.”
 
“Saving the planet” while buying your org a building. Wow, that'll be the day...
Talk for yourself Leah Remini with you “every one of us feel the same way”!  Not everyone fell for this!!

The drill...
        
At 15:32 Bert Schippers: “And they actually looked for and found a building that was only $1.1 million. It was very close by. And long story short, the... the seller agreed to sell it to the church.”
        
 
At 15:47: “Lynne and I donated $5,000 each to start the fundraising drive for that. We thought, ‘Well, if 200 people donated $5,000", we'd be pretty much there’.”
 
That gets you to 2 x $5,000 and 200 x $5,000 = $1.1 million. But it was not to be ...
        
At 16:00: “Upper management got word, and they said, ‘No, you can't buy that building. It's... it's too small’. Then the whole shift occurred and fundraising started and they started looking for a bigger building, which they found a year or two later. That building was 30,000 or so square feet, $3.7 million”
        
Which is an increase of $2.7 million.
        
At 16:26 Leah Remini: “And you, the parishioners, are being made responsible for the fundraising of this?”
        
 
At 16:29 Bert Schippers: “Yes. Yes, 100%. They would have fundraisers every week.”
 
In the end Bert Schippers and Lynne Hoverson came to donate “a total of $300,250 specifically for the Seattle Ideal Org building” over an “eight-year period” (at 16:40).
It did not stop there though.
        
At 17:03 Leah Remini reading from papers: “‘We Own the Building!’ ‘The Next Phase - Renovations’.”
        
 
At 17:12 Bert Schippers: “Well, the building cost $3.7 million. And what they were raising for renovations was 3.5. So, minimum, you know...”
 
 
At 17:20 Mike Rinder: “$7.... something million.”
 
 
At 17:22 Bert Schippers: “Minimum.”
 
It always went like this. Upper management decided what building any org would purchase. The individual orgs even had to send a package of materials whereupon upper management had to actually approve the building that org had chosen. Often it got declined, and the org had to find another building.
Then when the building was decided upon, the fund raising escalated. When this was all collected (usually took years) then the fund raising continued for renovating the building, buying the interior and so on and so on.

Knowledge report written for saying no
        
At 17:26 Bert Schippers: “The pressure is so great that often you give the money to have it stop.”
        
This is apparently how crazy it can get. You get knowledge reports written on you if you don't ‘donate’ that they ask for.
        
At 17:38: “We were written up for not giving a huge amount of money that... a Sea Org member asked for. She wrote a KR on us for not giving, like... she wanted, I don't know, $70,000 right then. And... and we said no.”
        
It did not matter if you at that time already had donated $160,000, now they were asking for an additional $90,000 for which they had to go into debt for (The KR is presented on the TV show at 17:45).

 
Back to Main Index ‘The Collection Agency’  (s3e07 - 8 Jan 2019)
      
      [Wiki: Leah and Mike interview former Scientologists who share the different ways they claim they were made to give the church money they couldn't afford. Their stories range from those who are thousands of dollars in debt, to those who were left financially and emotionally bankrupt. They also interview a former member of the church whose job it was to solicit money from parishioners by what she describes as “any means necessary”.]      
 
Go back Finances
(Incl.: Prepayments)
        
At 0:03 Leah Remini: “Mike, what church has a book on finances? This is how to extract money. You have the area cashier. You have department of income. ...”
        
Well, why wouldn't you? Even a church has to manage finances! In Scientology this is dealt with in Division 3 which is Treasury and there is a whole book about that. As there are also books about the other six Divisions that the Scientology organization has. The Division 3 book though is pretty thin at that.
        
[cont.] “... ‘Freeloaders.’ ‘Collection from SPs.’ This is what the IRS accepts as non-commercial This is a church. What they need to say is ‘we are a business.’”
        
This is pending that it says in that book what that is about and what it says that you do.
        
At 0:28 Mike Rinder: “Actually, they need to go one step further. We're not just a business. We're like a collection agency. ...”
        
That is certainly rather true regarding the approach we do observe from the Church.
        
[cont.] “... They come to your house unannounced. They tell you mankind is at stake if you don't give up this, if you don't give up that, and they pound you and pound--”
        
Does that book about Division 3 tell you to do these things?
        
At 0:44 Leah Remini: “‘Why don't you kick them out of your house?’ Because you're like, ‘Well, then they're gonna tell my kid not to talk to me, or my mom not to talk to me, or Scientologists, so I have to let them in my house. I have to let them in my job.’”
        
Ah, and that Division 3 book tells they are supposed to do that? Now, that is a choice each will have to make if you let them in or not. Either way, don't come to me and ring on my door for such things.

        
At 1:14 Mike Rinder: “And the people that we're gonna talk to today are just a small sample of the thousands and thousands who've given millions and millions of dollars, often money they didn't have, to Scientology.”
        
It would appear the Church was overdiligent to operate like that in US. It did not get to such extremes in Europe as we hear about from US.

        
At 1:41 screen dump text: “‘Make money. Make more money. Make other people produce so as to make more money.’   L. Ron Hubbard Policy Letter, 9 March 1972”
        
Wow, the TV show pulls this one as well as it is done all over the Internet. Just present something like this, out of the blue, out of context, don't explain anything, who it is for, what it is for, and so on. Just make the impression, “Ya know, this Scientology, it is all about that.” I have addressed this here (separate window).

        
At 3:27 Leah Remini: “And the fact that there's, you know, a department of income, which also differs from a real religion in that they have volumes of books on how to extract money from the very rich to the average person.”
        
Now it is suddenly “volumes of books”? No, just one volume ‘The Organization Executive Course: Treasury Division 3’.
And again, it is pending what it says in that book that you do and doesn't say that you do! Leah Remini already comes with her judgment at forehand, there she should investigate if that book instructs staff in the Church to behave as they do towards parishioners.

Prepayments
        
At 3:43 screen dump text: “Scientology parishioners have to pre-pay for blocks of service in advance which is put on the parishioner's account.”
        
This is not actually instructed by Scientology writings. I know there is such a practice at places, but it is not instructed by policy. I guess the prepay thing turned sort of fashionable at a time that the original OT VIII was up for release, but a date wasn't set yet. An option was not that you could prepay for it since the 70's. Keep in mind that the original OT levels were rather inexpensive at that time. Anyhow in the end it was never released, instead it got replaced by something else. I guess this concept of ‘prepaying’ might have etched an idea in some people's minds. Is it policy? It is not!
You however will always have something that is called advance payments, because you are not able to take out a service if you had not paid for that in full.

 
Go back Signing up for service  or  A registrar cycle that went sour (Incl.: Next life services all paid for...)
        
At 1:43 Leah Remini: “Tonight, we're talking to Mark and Stephanie Fladd, who were Scientologists for a very short amount of time, but Scientology, in usual fashion, extracted a large chunk of money from you to do Scientology.”
        

Mark Fladd signed up for a package to Clear for $35,000 (at 8:21). Then efforts are made to have Stephanie Fladd to sign up for a Life Repair for $7,500.
        
At 9:16 Stephanie Fladd: “He said, ‘You're gonna be a suppressive person if I reach Clear and you haven't done anything.’”
        
 
At 9:21 Leah Remini: “And who told you that?”
 
 
At 9:22 Mark Fladd: “The executive director was coaching me on what to say to my wife in order to convince her to agree to Life Repair.”
 

        
At 9:29 Leah Remini: “So basically, he was saying, ‘If you, Mark, reach Clear, and your wife's down here still, she's gonna hurt your life.’”
        
        
At 9:36 Mark Fladd: “Exactly. We would be too, uh, distant, uh, on the bridge.
        
 
So we had to get her life repaired for that reason.”
 
        
At 10:00 Stephanie Fladd: “The only reason I agreed is because he basically said, ‘If you don't do life repair, we're gonna have to get a divorce.’ Which means separating us and our kids.”
        
Wow-wow-wow, Mark Fladd submitted very quickly indeed to take a position like that. Why? How do you fall for such rubbish? He hadn't even received the services he bought.

Things didn't go as planned and they decided to get the money back for services that were paid for (at 12:09), but had not been received. A letter they send remained unanswered to, so they went into the Church.
        
At 12:50 Stephanie Fladd: “We went in, we tried to get our money back, and they said as soon as we leave, we wouldn't be able to ever get our money back.”
        
They were really easily scared away! There is a policy letter about refunds which the Church simply has to abide to! They did not even try...

Next life services all paid for...
        
At 13:24 Mark Fladd: “I was told, though, as I was leaving the org, by the registrar that, you know, I can use the money in my next lifetime.”
        
That's grand of course! What an opportunity! Èh...
At 14:51:
       Past Lives services
See the date it is showing. Isn't that after-dating that L. Ron Hubbard who, according to the official record, had passed on (24 Jan 86) by close to three years by then! I guess Leah Remini and the TV show missed that one... Did L. Ron Hubbard write that from the grave something?
In season 2/episode 14 Mike Rinder had though stated that:
        
At 34:22: “Sci... Scientology is 100% controlled by the writings of L. Ron Hubbard. ... And he is dead, so he cannot change his writings and nobody else has the authority to do so.”
        
It appears someone had been doing some writing/publishing, and it wasn't on the authority of L. Ron Hubbard.
Both Leah Remini and Mike Rinder respond shocked about this on the TV show about this next life auditing thing. Leah Remini seemed to know something about it, where Mike Rinder did not. I did know about that, and I thought it was silly. At that how are you going to establish it's the same person? Anyhow, Mark and Stephanie Fladd should just have gotten the refund they were entitled to, but they made no further effort for that, instead it got to ...
        
At 15:45 Mark Fladd: “Right, yeah. So I have a house, a mortgage, bills, and on top of that, I'm trying to pay off these high-interest credit cards, which are the debt from the org, and that just kind of snowballed uh, into a situation where I did have to sell my house so that I--I could get the money out of the house to pay off the credit cards.”
        

        
At 16:36 Mike Rinder: “And I can assure you that everything that you have explained to us and Carol and Heather-- these guys will all confirm that this is standard operating procedure, dictated by policy of L. Ron Hubbard.”
        
Such a marvelous closing statement, one that you can expect from Mike Rinder, and which is such rubbish! He hasn't shown or proven anything that he claims. He is shooting with blanks, tiring this... You have a behaviour, not a “dictated by policy”, be kind and show the policy!

 
Go back Freeloaders
        
“freeloader, n. a person who attends conferences, banquets, parties, etc., on account of the free food, drink, entertainment, and sometimes accommodations.
        
 
freeload or free-load, v.i. Slang. 2. to take freely, without making any contribution or effort of one's own.”
(both quotations from ‘World Book Dictionary’ (1974 edition), page 838)
 

        
At 2:44 Mike Rinder: “And Tyler Adams, who was also a Sea Org member, who, in fact, lost his eye as a Sea Org member and left the Sea Organization was handed a freeloader bill to add, literally, insult to injury.”
        

After having been in the Sea Org Tyler Adams wanted out for personal and familiar reasons.
        
At 30:22 Leah Remini: “And then were you handed a freeloader's debt from this?”
        
At 30:26:
       Freeloaders 1958
        
At 30:30 Tyler Adams: “It was because of the coursework I'd done as a regular Sea Org member that they then bill for. The stuff that I needed to do in order to do my job that they were assigning me, so they were charging me for the training that they gave me that was job-specific.”
        
Now, why would you call it a ‘freeloader’ bill if no free-load had been received? Then it can not be a freeloader bill, now can it?!
At 30:44-48:
  
lifted quotations
HCO PL 13 Oct 72
Another deliberate misrepresentation. Here is the context:
        
According to this mission many people had joined staffs, signed contracts, gotten free services and then went off staff.
        
 
This is nice work if one can get it.  It leaves the good guys burdened with tech delivery with no proper income.
 
 
Such contractbreakers are to be designated FREELOADERS.”          LRH
(from HCO PL 13 Oct 72R* “Freeloaders”, presently in use as HCO PL 2 Dec 69R “Freeloaders”)
 
Interesting is also that the TV show is not able to properly refer to Scientology references. It is not HCO PL 17 Jan 91 “Freeloaders”. A references in Scientology is always referred to by their original issue date, which in this case should have been HCO PL 13 Oct 72R (Revised 17 Jan 91) “Freeloaders”. Don't Leah Remini and Mike Rinder even know these things?! Wow...

There is a thing about, that if you did not pay your freeloader bill or did not advance on it, that you would not be able to take further services in the organization until it was done (paid off) in full. There is however nothing about that it would automatically deem you to be not in good standing. There is no policy I know of that says that, and why should there be?
        
At 32:14 Leah Remini: “And is this usual? I mean, is this usual for registrars to be calling people trying to get this-- extract this freeloader's debt? I mean--”
        
 
At 32:22 Carol Nyburg (former Scientology registrar): “Oh, absolutely. Yeah.”
 
 
At 32:23 Leah Remini: “And what is the purpose of their paying it?”
 
 
At 32:25 Carol Nyberg: “And you can be in good standing and you can come onto the base.”
 
Sorry, again no, there is no policy on that. You can also come into orgs, you just can not take services. It is also strange that a registrar would be involved in nudging/hunting people for freeloader debts. It is simply not part of the registrar's duties. I have never had a registrar contacting me about that.

I left at a time when situations were different. There was a policy that was in effect that would calculate your contribution to the organization and extract that from the bill. This fair treatment has been cancelled since. There is also the matter of being qualified being in the Sea Org, if you were found unfit, you were simply send away, and you would not owe anything at all. Of course you would not, as you did not broke your contract, where the organization cancelled it.
I actually took on the fight of the billing successfully and got it cancelled, the ‘freeloader’ label and the bill, and I have it in writing. Because of that I was contacted by persons. Finally I published the information I had on the Internet and was one of my first pages about Scientology on this website.

A detailed study about these matters can be consulted at link here below:  (separate window)
    “Scientology: Freeloaders and Ex-staff members examined  or  What shall we do with our old?”

 
Back to Main Index ‘Gilman Springs Road’  (s3e08 - 15 Jan 2019)
      
      [Wiki: Leah and Mike interview five former Scientologists Sea Org members and discuss their personal effects about being at Gold Base and the abuse from Church leader David Miscavige.]      
        
At 4:07 Leah Remini: “Tonight we're gonna be talking to former executives at the Gold Base, who all experienced abuse themselves, but also witnessed abuse to others who are still there. Amy Scobee, Jeff Hawkins, Marc and Claire Headley, and Mike Rinder, who were all there at the Gold Base.”
        
Each of these persons have spoken already in earlier episodes of the TV show about these same things. There is various repetition of incidents and further does not add very much worth mentioning.

 
Go back Does Gold Base have a repute? (Incl.: Gold Base origins)
        
At 0:01 screen dump text: “The International Headquarters of Scientology is located at a compound in Riverside County, California named Golden Era Productions aka Gold Base.”
        
 
At 0:14: “For Scientologists, the Gold Base represents the peak of Scientology and the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard.”
 

        
At 1:29 Mike Rinder: “Scientology presents a public image to the world and even to Scientologists that the Gold Base is paradise on Earth. It is the pinnacle of the technology of Scientology.”
        
Quite frankly, I never had particular thoughts about Gold Base. At that it was certainly not that what Mike Rinder states. I actually knew little about it, and I wasn't ever particularly interested either. The topic of Scientology for me was in the writings, not in some place somewhere. I really couldn't care less. I have no recollection either that this was much spoken about among staff and parishioners either. Is Mike Rinder exaggerating?
The only place that had some impact on the hearing of the Scientologist was Flag in Clearwater, Fl. The reason for this was that this was the place where the highest levels of Scientology service could be gotten. Here we had the Class XII Auditors. Also it was reputed and promoted they would be able to crack or solve any case there, where all efforts elsewhere may have failed. For some people it was their last resort.

Gold Base origins
        
At 5:12 Mike Rinder: “In 1978, L. Ron Hubbard shot a movie on the golf course at Golden Era Productions. He decided it would be an ideal property to make the international headquarters of Scientology, so he bought it.”
        
 
At 6:33: “In 1986, after L. Ron Hubbard had died, Miscavige basically took over the Gold Base. He moved there in 1987, he became the capo di tutti capo of Scientology, and he set up residence at Gold.”
 

 
Go back Are policies changing?  or  Is it Leah Remini that is changing her mind?
        
At 16:27 Leah Remini: “With each escape... Golden Era Production... Scientology... Changed the way they do business. So, there was a time, when Marc and Claire were in, where Claire can go to LensCrafters, right? And get her glasses. Well, since Claire left by going to LensCrafters and going out a back door and having a cab waiting for her, we don't go to LensCrafters anymore. Now, you can go to whoever they pick, but a person, who's a trusted person, has to stand by your side while you're getting an eye exam. So, they changed their policies on what they allow people to do.”
        
Changing “policies”?
Repeatedly throughout the TV shows statements are made by Leah Remini and Mike Rinder that it would be L. Ron Hubbard his policies that were at the core of everything as everyone, including David Miscavige, were just following L. Ron Hubbard's policies. Here however Leah Remini tells about “changed their policies”! Isn't saying that not a bit contradictorily? Then who designed the original policies and on whose authority were they changed?

 

Vocabulary:

     audit, auditing, auditor:
The application of Scientology processes and procedures to someone by a trained auditor (listener). The goal of the auditor is to make the receiver of the auditing look at incidents and reduce the mental charge which may lay upon them. The auditor may not evaluate and has to adhere to the Auditor's code.
     BTB:
Board Technical Bulletin’. Color flash–red ink on cream paper. These are the issues of the Boards of Directors of the Churches of Scientology and are separate and distinct from HCO Bulletins written by LRH. Only LRH issues may be printed green on white for Technical Bulletins and only LRH issues may have the prefix HCO. These Board issues are valid as tech. (BPL 14 Jan 74R I, New Issues).
  This issue-type was established in January 1974. In December 1974 a project was started to cancel HCOBs not written by L. Ron Hubbard and if still found being of value having them reissued as BTBs. By 1980 all BTBs had been revoked.
     engram:
1. Simply moments of physical pain strong enough to throw part or all the analytical machinery out of circuit; they are antagonism to the survival of the organism or pretended sympathy to the organism's survival. That is the entire definition. Great or little unconsciousness, physical pain, perceptic content, and contra-survival or pro-survival data. (Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, p. 68)  2. A moment when the analytical mind is shut down by physical pain, drugs or other means, and the reactive bank is open to the receipt of a recording. (Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, p. 153)  3. The word engram is an old one borrowed from biology. It means simply, “a lasting memory trace on a cell.” It may be engraved on more than the cell, but up against Dianetic processing, it is not very lasting. (Science of Survival, p. 10)  4. A recording which has the sole purpose of steering the individual through supposed but usually nonexistent dangers. (Science of Survival, p. 10)  5. A mental image picture which is a recording of a time of physical pain and unconsciousness. It must by definition have impact or injury as part of its content. (HCOB 23 Apr 69)  6. A complete recording, down to the last accurate detail, of every perception present in a moment of partial or full unconsciousness. (Scientology 0-8, p. 11)
     Flag Order (FO):
This is the equivalent to a policy letter (HCO PL) in the Sea Org (senior organization within the Church of Scientology). Contains policy and sea technical materials. They are numbered and dated. They do not decay, HCO PLs and FOs are both in effect on Sea Org orgs, ships, offices and bases. Black ink on white paper. Distribution to all Sea Org members. It is vital for SO units to have master files and quantity of FOs from which hats can be made up for SO personnel and courses. (HCO PL 24 Sept 70R)
     Gold Base:
Holds the Golden Era Productions facilities where Scientology religious training films and audio properties are produced and technical compilations occur. (‘What Is Scientology?’ (1992 edition), page 508)
     hat, hat packs:
The duties of a post. It comes from the fact that jobs are often distinguished by a type of hat as fireman, policeman, conductor, etc. Hence the term ‘hat’. A ‘hat pack’ is a compilation of issues (HCO PL and any other) into a ‘pack’, this in the sequence as they appear on the course checksheet for that particular ‘hat’ (post or job). This course checksheet itself is placed at the front of the ‘hat pack’.
     HCOB:
Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin’. Color flash–red ink on white paper. Written by LRH only , but only so starting from January 1974. These are the technical issue line. All data for auditing and courses is contained in HCOBs. For more information go here (separate window).
    HCO PL:
Hubbard Communication Office Policy Letter’. Color flash–green ink on white paper. Written by LRH only, but only so starting from January 1974. These are the organizational and administrative issue line. For more information go here (separate window).
     IAS:
International Association of Scientologists’. A Scientology membership granting amongst other 20% discounts and other financial advantages.
    IMDB:
International Movie Database’. Internet address: https://www.imdb.com. Used as a source reference.
     LRH:
An usual abbreviation for ‘L. Ron Hubbard’.
     OCA, APA:
Oxford Capacity Analysis’. The OCA (Oxford Capacity Analysis) is the English version of the American Personality Analysis (APA). The OCA (or APA) consists of 200 questions. These 200 questions are divided up into series of 20 questions, each of which measures a single personality trait. Thus ten traits are measured in all. (HCO PL 3 Nov 70 II)
     org(s):
Short for ‘organization(s)’.
     OT:
Short for ‘Operating Thetan’. Denotes a person having advanced to the higher levels in Scientology.
     PRD:
Primary Rundown’. The Primary Rundown consists of word clearing and study technology. Consists of Method 1 word clearing and Method 8 on on study tapes and the Student Hat course materials.
(Method 1: by meter in session. A full assessment of many, many subjects is done. The auditor then takes each reading subject and clears the chain back to earlier words and or words in earlier subjects until he gets an F/N; Method 8: Usually an alphabetical list of every word or term in the text of a paper, a chapter or a recorded tape is available or provided. The person looks up each word on the alphabetical list and uses each in sentences until he has the meaning conceptually.)
     Sea Org (SO):
Short for ‘Sea Organization’. This is the senior organization within the Church of Scientology that see to it that Advanced Organizations (AOs) and the Class IV-V organizations do function well. They send out so-called missions if there are indications or if they find that improvement or corrections are called for. They also provide for dissemination and other programs that the Scientology organizations are to comply with. Missions may be send out to implement these and instruct the organizations.
     squirrel:
Going off into weird practices or altering Scientology. (HCO PL 7 Feb 65, Keeping Scientology Working)
    Wiki:
On this page this is short for Wikipedia. Used as a source reference.


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